Wednesday, March 24, 2021

Inov-8 TrailFly Ultra G 300 Max Review: Graphene Powered, Max Cushioned, Adaptable!

Article by Sam Winebaum and Jeff Beck

Inov8 TrailFly Ultra G 300 Max ($190 / 195 / £170)

Introduction

The TrailFly Ultra brings Inov-8 into the world of max cushion trail running shoes for the first time with an innovative “graphene powered” entry. 


Long known for trail runners, and in fact was the very first run shoe company I know of started which started in 2003 exclusively as a trail run shoe company. I ran in many of their early models appreciating their agility but often wishing for more cushion.  Over time the British brand stuck to a fairly static formula of firm, snug and relatively low drop shoes branching out into CrossFit, OCR and some road as the industry seemingly moved on to more cushion and friendlier fits, even in trail.   


2020 saw Inov-8 re-emerge with not only more shoes with their Graphene Grip outsoles but with the sensational Terra Ultra G270 (RTR Review)  a light, agile very versatile zero drop shoe with a lively midsole and of course Graphene Grip! It was the RTR team’s consensus trail shoe of the year and my personal favorite as well.


Graphene a component of both the midsole and outsole. Graphene, whose discoverers were awarded the Nobel Prize is the thinnest, lightest, strongest material ever created. Graphene is incorporated into the outsole and now the midsole of the TrailFly.


With the TrailFly, Inov-8 goes to the other end of the trail running spectrum with an ultra focused max cushion new entry packed with 3 new patent pending technologies.

Graphene Grip

The outsole has sticky traction and graphene based characteristics of being “scientifically proven as  50% more elastic, 50% harder wearing, and 50% stronger”. While I have not been on much granite so far this year as snow is just now disappearing,  in last year’s G270 the outsole was outstanding in the White Mountains. I can say that the TrailFly’s grip in mud has been great given the outsole’s combination of moderate 4mm lugs and deep grooves to the midsole

G-Fly

G-Fly is a graphene enhanced EVA/TPU blend midsole foam which is said to have 25% more “energy return” than standard EVA and 10% more than the already fine rebounding POWERFLOW MAX foam in the G 270. 

The foam was extensively tested in the lab and through up 1200km of wear testing in a single pair and a total of 18K kilometers and is said to remain more consistent in its characteristics and energy return during long runs and over time than conventional foams was illustrated by the research above.

Adapter-Flex

The most unusual and most visible of the 3 patent pending technologies, the TrailFly has a 10mm deep V-shaped midfoot groove through the midsole and outsole to allow the shoe (and foot) to “adapt, react, and mold to uneven terrain”. 

The scientific principle underlying the technology is described as follows:”The flex sits under the midfoot to align with the oblique midtarsal joint axis. This joint’s function is to allow the forefoot to turn inwards or outwards without influencing the same motions in the heel. By having a flex groove under it, the joint is free to do its job. This helps the foot – and shoe – adapt, react and mould to uneven terrain or sudden changes in the trail, while the heel can stay straight.”


In addition, the front longitudinal grooves match the bones of the foot to allow the foot to work with undulating terrain while, due to the stack, being incredibly cushioned. 


I can say this technology is clearly felt and is effective as, even with the giant stack, my foot always feels like it is in the mix with a sensation of ground feel and adaptation to terrain and with the heel always stable,  and especially so on downhills, while the front of the foot is engaged on uphills.


Not a patented tech that I know of,  I was also thrilled that the bouncy 6mm Boomerang sockliner is also in the mix as in the G270 with its expanded TPU beds said to provide 40% more energy return than standard insoles. I did wonder if it was really needed with the deeper softer G-Fly midsole though.


Pros:

  • Copious softer and forgiving cushion with midsole energy return Sam/Jeff
  • All day, any surface comfort
  • Very well matched midsole and outsole, smooth flowing run feel on all surfaces Sam/Jeff
  • Totally silent even on road Sam/Jeff
  • Unusual "natural" sense of ground feel and foot engagement even with giant stack Sam/Jeff
  • Decoupling at mid foot allows stable downhill landings, easy climbing, flat ground flow and great ground feel despite giant stack height Sam/Jeff
  • Superb traction on all surfaces tested without getting in the way on hard surfaces.
  • Roomy yet well held upper Sam/Jeff
  • Strong hiking, fast packing, thru hiking option due to stability, plentiful cushion, and traction Sam/Jeff

Cons:

  • Weight at 11.92 oz / 338g in a US9 is felt Sam/Jeff
  • Lacks decisive response on firmer surfaces. Outsole or midsole could be firmer to provide more pop.Sam/Jeff
  • The laces are WAY too long, first shoe I've ever gotten a sextuple knot Jeff 
  • The cost of admission might be worth it, but the price definitely stings Jeff

Stats

Sample Weights: men's 11.92 oz /  338g (US9), 13.263oz / 376g US11.5

Stack Height (midsole+outsole): 30mm heel / 24mm forefoot (plus approx. 6mm insole)

Available: Pre-Order March 24, Ship April 8.  

 


First Impressions and Fit


Sam: A big surprise when I first received it with no details beforehand. I was expecting another svelte, low drop, fast shoe from Inov-8, maybe a “slightly” higher stack, higher drop version of the G 270. What I saw was a giant of a shoe in the class of say a Speedgoat or Saucony Xodus 10.


My sample is a US9 which is half a size up from my true to size.  After trying on and running them and while the midfoot and heel hold is fine in thicker winter running socks I would clearly go true to size in a next pair.

The fit is generous through the mid foot and toe box and is a “Grade 5” or widest toe box in the Inov-8 range. The G 270 was also a Grade 5 but here the volume front and mid foot is yet more generous so those who found the G 270 a bit snug, as it should be for its fast agile purposes, but maybe not so much for super broad feet, should be pleased with this more ultra foot swelling fit here 

The fit has remained more than adequately secure for me even for my narrower right foot at a half size up from normal, not always the case. I noted the called out Adapter-Fit system of overlays and unpadded gusseted tongue did in fact allow me to get a secure comfortable fit despite the half size up. 

One of my test adventures was a 3100 foot /1000 meter hike on smooth packed snow, round trip of about 8 miles and while I used traction spikes I had no slip forward in the shoe on the very steep downhill and only adjusted the laces once the whole day.

Jeff: This is my first experience with Inov-8, and what a place to start. First thing, that green can almost be seen from space. Whether that's a good or bad thing is completely up to you, but personally I really enjoy it. The fit is a little more complicated. They sent me an 11.5, which is a full size up from my normal 10.5, and I don't know that I would change that. There is just a little bit more than a full thumb's width in front of my big toe, and perhaps as important, my big toe ends just before the very robust toe bumper comes into play. If the shoe was a bit shorter I get the impression that my big toes would be rubbing up against that toe bumper causing issues, so I'm really not going to complain about the sizing. As for the toebox? It's incredible. Virtually as good as a Topo or Altra, but looks a little more traditional, which is nice. I've run my pair on smooth trails, technical trails, as well as on various hikes with the family and even casual wear (they were quite the hit at the office) and fit has been good.

Upper

The upper material is a fairly simple pliable air mesh that is structured by an array of pliable overlays that, along with the unpadded  tongue and its top of upper connected gusset, do a great job wrapping the foot and comfortably so.

In a super nice touch RoadTrailRun was printed on the tongue!

Lace up is easy and secure but you can see how close the sides are on my relatively narrow feet. 

The heel counter area is moderately padded with the heel counter itself not completely rigid with the rising far rear midsole sidewalls providing some of its structure.

The toe bumper is of a quite pliable, thick and I expect durable two layer construction with the single rear layer over the toes in no way squeezing down over the toes.

Jeff: My pair didn't get the RoadTrailRun tongue treatment, but otherwise I would agree with nearly everything Sam wrote. Interestingly enough, my foot is borderline wide and my pair is laced even narrower than his - probably a result of wearing a full size up from normal. 

That said, the upper is really breathable and comfortable. I can say from personal experience that they do not repel much water. My initial run in the G300 was on some muddy trails that had some puddles, and one of those puddles was deeper than anticipated and my foot was soaked. I was impressed with how quickly it dried out, both the initial dry out on the trail (preventing any blisters) as well as how they felt the following day. The heel counter is one of those examples of "just enough" because there is flexibility and structure at the same time. I didn't even notice that the tongue was unpadded at first - the laces were soft and stretchy enough to not put much pressure on the top of the foot. The bumper is no joke, with a lot of protection without being overly stiff. All told, it's a very well constructed upper that holds the foot incredibly well.


Midsole

The G-Fly midsole is a graphene enhanced EVA/TPU blend. The midsole stack height checks in at 25mm /19mm and that is before the 5mm of relatively soft and forgiving outsole and the 6mm clearly cushioning and energy returning Boomerang sockliner. 


So there is a total of about 36mm at the heel and 30mm at the forefoot which puts the stack in the realm of the Speedgoat (somewhat more) and Xodus (somewhat less) The midsole feel is quite soft and very forgiving and clearly tuned for long days on the trail, be it running or hiking. 


There is measured consistent energy return for sure that is not so much highly energetic and snappy as mellow and pleasing without ever feeling mushy.  The foam has a certain tension to its rebound with no sense of squishing out laterally as softer foams can feel or of harshness as firmer foams can deliver.  









The Adapter Flex 10mm deep groove is clearly felt on the run. On uphills it is felt as a long flexing stable front platform with the rear of the foot and heel of the shoe not interfering with transition and push off. 

On downhills the heel is felt as very stable, torsionally rigid and broad, a solid all of a piece landing platform, rapidly followed by the front of foot moving to toe off with the foot an active participant, and with more flex overall upfront torsionally and longitudinally than the heel, rather than just an appendage that is bolted to the platform. On the flats the effect is of a smooth rolling sensation.

Outsole is up next but must  be mentioned here in context of the midsole and its cushion. The relatively soft and elastic Graphene Grip outsole contributes to the cushion effect of the system. 


Overall, I do wish for a touch more response and snap from what is underfoot. I noticed that on the hardest surface I ran on, concrete sidewalks, the shoe got more noticeably more responsive and snappier than on tar or for sure trail surfaces while also never transmitting much of any shock or being overly firm even on concrete and also  while still retaining a notable sense of energy return from the foam itself. Now try running a Speedgoat on concrete...So while it has the utmost in all day cushion and comfort, I think overall things could be a touch more responsive and snappier. 


Jeff: I've never experienced such a big, burly trail shoe that didn't feel like it. Not to say you can't tell the weight (in my size 11.5 more than 13 ounces!) but the midsole doesn't feel like a big slab of foam. The Adapter Flex groove has to be the main culprit of that. At first glance I thought it was odd, borderline awkward, but it really helps the shoe perform better than it probably should. I have yet to experience any drawback from the groove, the shoe's stability is not lacking considering it's literally two different pieces. 


Sam is spot on, there's no mushy feel regardless of terrain, and mellow is a good way to describe the sensation. This is the most "all day" shoe I've had on my foot since the Hoka Stinson, and this shoe is much more svelte and versatile than the Stinson is. 

The one place I'll disagree with Sam is the responsiveness or lack thereof. It's not that I think it is super responsive as much as I don't mind that they aren't a fast shoe. If you're going to be heavy and truly an all-terrain shoe, it's hard to give you all day comfort and be responsive, so I'm fine that they leaned into being a big burly shoe. There is a nice bounce to it, especially on the harder surfaces, but I'll get deeper into that below in the ride. 

The insole texture and TPU beads construction is interesting, and I think it helps the shoe and its overall pure comfort.


Outsole

The outsole is Inov-8’s Graphene Grip which is said to be “scientifically proven to be  50% more elastic, 50% harder wearing, and 50% stronger”. I cannot yet say for the TrailFly yet but the G270 Graphene Grip proved superb on all surfaces and hard wearing so I expect the same here. Especially notable is its elastic properties which seem to mold to rock and other surfaces and stick.


The outsole’s actual design is of note as it combines 4mm lugs with deeper longitudinal central forefoot grooves into the midsole. 









This design not only performed very well on mud but also for sure contributes to the easy smooth flatter ground toe off for such a big stack shoe, the cushion effect and its total silence on hard surfaces such as road. 


I often attribute a shoe’s silence to the relative firmness of the rubber (and here not super firm) and the overall geometry. Stiff shoes with hard rubber are often very noisy and harder to transition on smoother terrain although some “very noisy” trail shoes such as the upcoming Topo MTN Racer 2 with MegaGrip and road shoes such as Nike Tempo Next can transition and toe off very well indeed due to their overall geometry. 


There is no rock protection plate and in my view none is needed. Protection is good without a plate and further a plate might stiffen the shoe. That said “rock protection” plates, well implemented, can also deliver a propulsive effect which I think the TrailFly could benefit more of or alternativey which firming the outsole a bit might also help provide.


Jeff: So *that* is what Graphene is all about. I'm truly impressed with this outsole more than any other. The various brand name rubbers from Goodyear or Continental are really good, but this is truly on the next level in several ways. First, the durability is ridiculously good. My first run was muddy, and in a few places full-on sloppy, and as I wrapped up the run I dragged my feet in the parking lot of the trailhead to get some of the mud off. 


Even after dragging my feet around the parking lot, I couldn't see a single wear spot on the shoe. And I don't mean that it wasn't worn down, I mean that the shoe has little triangles all over it (kind of like the little hairs that brand new tires have on them) and there wasn't a single one missing or worn down. The second amazing aspect of the outsole was its traction. 


It has excelled on every terrain I've taken it, with the only mark against it was in the sloppiest of mud - but few shoes that don't have lugs that are 7+ millimeters have a chance in that condition. The wildest element is how much rubber there is, and how flexible it all is. Sam mentioned the shoe molding to surfaces, and he's not wrong. Also, for how much rubber and how big the lugs are, I was truly shocked how quiet they were on every surface. 


Lastly, rock protection - I was surprised how good it was. Many of my lighter weight colleagues will run in a well cushioned shoe like this and say that there's plenty of protection while I bottom out through all that midsole to feel every bit of the rock. Well, not here. Maybe it's the Graphene outsole, maybe it's the midsole, but I found myself hunting rocks trying to see what it would take to go too far, and I couldn't do it. Normally I prefer some midsole with a plate, but in this case the midsole/outsole together do everything I need, and the plate would just get in the way.

 

Ride

Sam: The ride is very forgiving, quite dynamic with the (Adapter Flex groove and foam characteristics the key contributors)  and this despite the weight and relative overall (midsole+ outsole combination) softness. This TrailFly ride is also notably stable. There is a distinct sensation that foot and shoe flow along the ground all of a piece and in concert with the foot itself and with the uneven nature of the trails in the mix instead of being removed from it as big stack trail shoes often feel,  yet all the while with copious protection and cushion.  

I have run and hiked about 30 miles in the TrailFly to date. The tests included that steep snow hike, a trail run on slightly technical rooty rocky terrain on my usual test loop and 2 runs on a mix of roads and more urban trails. 

On all surfaces the ride was smooth and flowing. I pondered how to best describe the ride and as I ran across an artificial track on one of my runs for a few hundred meters it occurred to me that the feel is quite like running any surface in a moderately well padded road shoe on a track or the feeling of running on very hard packed sand, the toes digging in or across a well mowed firm enough lawn. Of course, we are dealing with a ton of cushion stack here but I would say the geometry and overall cushion is more “natural” and engaged with the foot than other big stack trail shoes.


Jeff: Stable, smooth, and comfortable without every crossing over to mushy. Sam described it well, and I'd agree, that even with all the shoe under your foot you do not feel completely separate from the trail. I can't believe a shoe with that much outsole actually has ground feel. This shoe has very much a normalizing effect, hard trail, soft trail, mud, rocks, path, it doesn't matter, it all feels good.


Conclusions and Recommendations

Sam: This innovative new max cushion shoe packed with effective new technologies will delight runners (and hikers) who are in for long, long hauls on any kind of terrain. 


The Adapter-Flex groove and the front longitudinal grooves are clear highlight features with the distinctly felt action of the geometry on uphills, downhills, and flats with a resulting unique ground feel underfoot working in concert with the massively cushioned platform. 


The graphene enhanced G-Fly midsole and its forgiving rebounding ride and expected longevity is another clear highlight as is the Graphene Grip outsole. Yes it is grippy,  but the outsole design also plays well with the midsole for a unique ride with the foot an active and aware participant in forward motion and terrain unevenness. 


The TrailFly suffers a bit in lacking response and snap on firmer terrain likely due to some of the same factors that give it such great and at the same time forgivingly cushioned ground feel everywhere.


At 11.92 oz / 338g in my US 9 and $190 I wish it was a bit less of both for my uses. I also wish for a variant to sit somewhere between the G270 and TrailFly with a similar 6mm dropped G-Fly foam of the TrailFly and more cushion stack than the G270.  


This said it is clearly a model for long ultras and long days on feet and not as much for the shorter and faster trail runs I usually do. I can’t wait to take it hiking in the White Mountains of New Hampshire where the G270 performed so well but was a bit too minimal in cushion and protection, not to speak of being zero drop, for really long days on the rocks. 

Sam’s Score 9.32 /10

Ride: 9.3(30%) Fit: 9.3 (30%) Value: 8.7(10%) Style: 9(5%) Traction:10(15%) Rock Protect:9.2 (10%)


Jeff: There's a new standard for big burly trail shoes, and this is it. The upper is great, but compared to the midsole it pales in comparison. Part of me thinks the midsole pales in comparison to the outsole, but realistically I think the outsole and midsole work together, and they work together like peanut butter and jelly. The traction and durability of the outsole are truly the top of the class, and while it is a big heavy shoe, it runs smoothly and doesn't feel like a pair of cinder blocks strapped to your feet. 

I appreciate that it isn't a zero drop shoe (personally why I haven't tried the G270 despite the rave reviews) and it is a great shoe for anything. And I mean literally anything. Between runs, hikes, casual wear (even wore them to go canoeing in the mountains!), I have not found a place where this shoe doesn't shine - but I'd imagine the only place is 400 meter repeats on the track. It doesn't have the same pick up for fast stuff, but I don't believe it would be so good at everything else if it tried to excel at that as well. My biggest complaint about the shoe is the cost, $190 is a lot of money. A lot of money. But, after seeing just how durable the outsole is, and feeling the midsole, this feels like a shoe that will last much longer than the sting on your bank account will.
Jeff's Score 9.3/10
Ride: 9 (30%) Fit: 9 (30%) Value: 9 (10%) Style: 10 (5%) Traction: 10 (15%) Rock Protection: 10 (10%)


Watch Sam's Video Review of the TrailFly



Comparisons

Index to all RTR reviews: HERE


Inov-8 Terra Ultra G270 (RTR Review)
Sam: Of course sharing a Graphene Grip outsole, the two differ in that the G 270 has far less stack at 21mm zero drop vs 30mm plus for the TrailFly. The G270 is almost 3 ounces lighter. They share a similar upper construction with the TrailFly somewhat roomier. The G 270 was the RTR team's and my personal trail shoe of the year for its outstanding balance of light weight, agility, and sufficient cushion for most runs even as a zero drop shoe. The TrailFly clearly but maybe a bit excessively due to weight and soft response  compliments G 270 (given Graphene Grip and a similar if more rebounding and softer midsole feel)  as the longer easier days shoe in the line up. 

Speedgoat 4 (RTR Review)

Sam: At 10.8 oz the Speedgoat is about an ounce lighter and has a 39/35 full stack heigh vs 36/30 for TrailFly, so yet more than the TrailFly and too much for me to move along and feel the trail. Its midsole geometry, stiffness and MegaGrip outsole have it focused on technical terrain with its smooth terrain performance and ground feel not up to the level of the TrailFly despite the weight difference. It’s upper may be more secure for highly technical  uses but in standard widths does not have the volume and comfort of the TrailFly’s upfront.


Jeff: You can feel the weight difference of the much more svelte Speedgoat, and it'd likely be my pick for purely technical running, but there are a number of other terrains that the TrailFly outclasses the Hoka making it far more versatile. Add to that, I think the Inov8 has better overall traction, rock protection, toebox and overall fit, and pure comfort. While it does have a $45 premium over the Hoka, I think the Inov8 durability more than make up for the cost - especially since my pair of Speedgoat 4 were nearly falling apart by 200 miles. The Speedgoat is a faster and more technical trail shoe, the TrailFly is better at everything else. For my style of running, I favor the TrailFly.


Xodus 10 (RTR Review)

Sam: The closest match up. Weighing about the same, the Xodus 10 has a somewhat lower stack height at 30/26. It’s combination of PWRRUN+ TPU midsole, rock plate, and somewhat firmer outsole deliver a springier, more responsive ride on harder surfaces, making it a great and better road to trail shoe than the TrailFly. The TrailFly has a somewhat softer overall feel and more cushion and considerably more “ground and feet in action” feel. Both have excellent uppers with the TrailFly’s toe box volume greater and its overall feel on the foot lighter and airier. 


Jeff: Sam sums these up well, and he's not wrong, it's probably the closest comparison out there, because it's got great traction, great durability, great versatility, a decently high price tag, and plenty of weight. Even though the TrailFly is more expensive and slightly heavier, I think it leans more into what makes it great. I agree with Sam that Xodus 10 has a more responsive ride on hard surfaces, but I don't mind the lack of response in the TrailFly, instead it has a smooth and stable ride. Ultimately both are great shoes, and as much as I enjoy the Xodus, I'd give the edge to the TrailFly.

Topo Athletic MTN Racer 2 (RTR Review)

Sam: The lighter MTN Racer 2, coming April 2021,  reproduces some of the smooth flowing all terrain feel of the TrailFly in a somewhat less cushioned yet still forgiving platform. Shod in MegaGrip, it is a noisy shoe on firmer surfaces unlike the TrailFly.  Fit and sizing is similar with the Topo toe box slightly roomier. 


Salomon Sense Ride 3 and 4 (RTR Sense Ride 4 Review)

Sam: I have not run the Sense Ride 4 yet but did the 3. Salomon's most cushioned trail runner weighs considerably less at just over 10 ounces in the current version down from about 10.7 oz in v3. It has dense protective ride with less rebound feel than the TrailFly suitable for long distances and long days. It is less ground conforming in ride with less feel of the trail and has a lower volume upper. 

361 Yushan (RTR Review)

Sam: With a 28/36 stack height the Yushan is a similarly max cushion trail shoe. It weighs half an ounce more at 12.3 oz so really up there. It shares a quite soft and energetic forefoot with a stable heel with the TrailFly and has an easier flex closer to the front of the shoe. More traditional in ride it doesn’t quite match up to the ground feel and dynamism of the TrailFly but is $55 less. 


Tester Profile

Jeff is the token slow runner of the RTR lineup, and as such his viewpoints on shoe and gear can differ from those who routinely finish marathons in three hours or less. Jeff runs 30 miles per week on roads and trails around Denver, CO (and sometimes on the treadmill when the weather gets too much for a Phoenix native). Jeff only got into running in his 30s, as a result his career PR's are 4:07 for the marathon and 5K at 23:39. Jeff has finished several ultra marathons, from 50K up to 50 miles, and is still debating if he wants to go down that road again.


Sam is the Editor and Founder of Road Trail Run. He is 63 with a 2018 3:40 Boston qualifier. Sam has been running for over 48 years and has a 2:28 marathon PR. These days he runs halves in the just sub 1:40 range training 30-40 miles per week mostly at moderate paces on the roads and trails of New Hampshire and Utah. He is 5’9” tall and weighs about 164 lbs.


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Tested samples were provided at no charge for review purposes. No other compensation was received by RTR or the authors for this review from Inov-8 . The opinions herein are entirely the authors'.

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15 comments:

John H. said...

Just from an aesthetic standpoint, that shoe is hideous. I don't understand the designers who think neon green and black would look great as a trail shoe. Must be a British thing.

Ante said...

That flex groove must attract rocks!?

Sam Winebaum said...

Hi Ante,
so far not as it is V shaped with enough flex so none have got caught. However you do not want to plant a root or as I did a thin rubber flexible water bar in there as I think I did surprising me..
Sam

Sam Winebaum said...

John H,
You may recall a very similar color for the launch of the G270 followed very quickly by a spectacular blue and yellow. Not sure what come next for G 300 but I am sure they have a plan
Sam, Editor

Anonymous said...

Your statement about Speedgoat 4 in the comparisons is wrong. SG4 has a 32/28mm stack height, not 39/35.

Sam Winebaum said...

Hi Unknown,
I have clarified. I am referring to full stack height of SG4 "At 10.8 oz the Speedgoat is about an ounce lighter and has a 39/35 full stack heigh vs 36/30 for TrailFly." The Boomerang insole in the TrailFly unlike most insoles is a key component of cushioning stack,
Sam, Editor

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70's Teen said...

Hi Sam,

How would you compare these to the NB More Trail in terms of ride, particularly in a road to trail setting?

Sam Winebaum said...

Hi 70’s Teen,
I don’t have my More Trail here but I would say the key difference for door to trail use would be weight as the More Trail at about 10 oz is almost 1.7 oz lighter and the weight is felt for G300 more so on road than trail. Both have a bouncy energetic ride that is quite similar. Get on the trails and for long days and rough terrain the G300 will be clearly superior in upper hold, stability overall and traction.
Sam, Editor

The Stoat said...

After a short test run, I would describe the feel of the midsole as being similar to the La Sportiva Akasha. Not soft and squishy, but more of a firm, damped rubberiness. I'm a fan of this type of feel feel (which I haven't felt elsewhere) and nice to see it in another shoe as I had issues with the Akasha heel. The upper on the Trailfly is 100% perfect. The weight and pronounced rocker have made me hold off purchasing for now. Perhaps I need to get over the weight thing... it's not like I'm going to be using it to get 5k PB.

Unknown said...

Nice to read a comparison with the Akasha, great shoe, always missing in the conversation of more cushioned shoes...and the weight of the Akasha is while still a heavier shoe, nearly 40 gr less...

Skidad said...

RTR you need to get your hands on a new direct competitor to this shoe (Speedgoat as well) and that is the the VJ ULTRA. At 286 grams for UK 9.5 a far lighter shoe along with all the other attributes VJ is known for. Grip, grip, grip, and bomber upper.
Please do a comparison test to the Inov-8 here and the Speedgoat.
Speaking of Speedgoat when can we expect a Speedgoat 5?

Unknown said...

Would not be the Altra Olympus 4.0 a logical competitor ?

Unknown said...

I’m curious what the overall thoughts from the RTR team are on sizing? I want to try a pair and curious what to get. I’m probably a true 12.5 but wear 13 in most shoes as I like the extra space and freedom for long distance adventures. Thank you!

Fraser said...

Bought a pair - sole was falling apart after 98 miles across the Peak District.

i.e. the rubber sole was peeling away from the mid and coming off in pieces.

Returned as "not fit for purpose" and got a full refund.

YMMV.

window said...

Hi RTR,

Can do you suggest the size of G300 Max and Terraultra G270 ?

I have SG3(29 cm/UK10.5),and SG4_wide(28.5 cm/UK10).

Not easy to find shoe friendly with big toe-box.