Article by Sam Winebaum, Bryan Lim, Derek Li, and Jeff Beck
Saucony Ride 16 ($140)
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Introduction
Sam: The Ride is Saucony’s all around daily road trainer. The Ride 15 (RTR Review) saw major changes with a higher stack of softer (than before) PWRRUN foam and a dramatic 1.5oz / 43g drop in weight. It was my daily trainer of the year for its lightweight, responsive ride, copious cushion and secure upper all put together making it an incredibly versatile shoe.
Ride 16 stays exactly the same in weight, retains the same midsole foam and feel as well as outsole.
The update is to the upper with a new dual mesh approach of softer pliable mesh upfront and a non stretch grid rear with a new arrangement of the “Gilly” straps which now are thinner and with the rear one reaching to the heel.
Bryan: Not having run the Ride 15 and only the Ride 14, the changes to the Ride 16 for me have been massive, and as Sam highlights, there has been a change in the Ride’s geometry, foam geometry/stack and weight. So the Ride 16 is essentially a new shoe to me, and I will be reviewing it as such. I recall the Ride 14 to have a similar DNA, pun intended (!), but it was very heavy for what it was (281g / 9.9oz in US9). The Ride 16 however, is truly a modern high stack and cushioned, lightweight, and responsive daily trainer. My Ride 16 weighs in 31g / 1.1oz lighter than my Ride 14.
Pros:
Saucony did not mess with the 15’s all around ride and cushion: Sam/Derek
Versatile, very light and well cushioned, stable and secure all arounder Sam/Bryan/Derek/Jeff
Love the responsive firmer, very stable and super well cushioned forefoot Sam/Bryan
Incredibly secure performance type fit (wide is available): Sam/Bryan/Jeff
Mesh stretch makes toebox effectively larger: Jeff
Cons:
Takes a few miles (<10) to break in front flex and ride to soften, don’t get discouraged: Sam
Fit in area of straps, medial logo and non stretch rear grid mesh is a bit too snug: Sam/Derek/Jeff
Everything in its time, and Saucony is deliberate and smart, but a slightly liviler, less dense foam would be nice: Sam/Bryan/Derek/Jeff
Some may find the secure performance type fit restrictive: Bryan/Derek/Sam
Stats
Official Weight: Men 8.8oz / 250g US9 :: Women 7.8oz / 221g US8
Sample Weight: men’s 8.7 oz / 247g US8.5, 8.85oz / 251g US9
Ride 15: 8.7 oz / 247g US9
Stack Height: men’s 35mm heel / 27mm forefoot, 8 mm drop
$140. Available April.
First Impressions, Fit and Upper
Sam: What a great colorway my two toned Agave/Basalt version. The Agave blue is striking but not neon bright extending from upper to midsole/outsole with the rear darker Basalt which even peaks through the forefoot as the inner lining toning the blue down just enough.
Visually the upper says to me the rear is different, more serious than the cherry comfortable front; namely, the eye focuses on the very real rear support of the Ride 16 with extra highlight on the now smaller width orange Gilly straps
The dark rear is a different mesh than the very soft engineered mesh upfront which is thinner, softer and less structured than the Ride 15’s.
The rear mesh extending from the top 4 laces is a non stretch grid type mesh and covers the entire rear of the shoe.
The rear lockdown is multi-part.
- First, the grid mesh has a consistent rear wrap.
- Next, the Gilly straps one extending down to the midsole and the other wrapping all the way to near the rear.
- Finally, we have a very rigid well padded heel counter. And let’s not forget a gusset tongue and Form Fit sockliner and the underfoot geometry.
I feel some pressure, nothing serious but real in the area of shoe where the strap goes to the rear. In the pictures I am wearing a medium thickness (not thin) Darn Tough sock, but still.
On the plus side this kind of support (at the upper level as underfoot there are no support elements as say its almost identical geometry sibling Guide 16) could help serve those with light pronation control needs well and in lieu of more prescriptive approaches as say the Guide has. That said if you do need support and want a shoe between these two look to Saucony's Tempus.
The fit is true to size for me and low volume at midfoot. I adapted by lacing looser. The support was for sure all still there laced looser.
The fit upfront is slightly more accommodating for me upfront and a bit less so at midfoot than in the Ride 15. The toe box has plenty of comfortable decently broad room. As per their usual practice Saucony does not oversize/volume and over comfort their regular width trainers at the expense of hold and performance. A smart move as the Ride 16 is also available in wide.
Bryan: First impressions - oh so pretty! I am a huge fan of the employment of the two tone colourway in this bright Agave blue and Basalt gray in the rear. I am not one for white uncoloured midsoles so this is right up my alley. Visually, superb.
I did have a scare with the fit as I struggled to put them on, in the first instance due to the mentioned secure performance fit. On my first run, I used thinner Steigen socks as opposed to my usual Asics or Stance crew socks, which the latter made it scarily snug. It was so snug I felt as if I had sized down by half a size. Oddly, the shoe felt perfectly fine in the Steigen socks on the first run, and by the second and third runs I was able to revert to cushioned socks with absolutely no issues! What a relief.
Overall, the fit and build of the upper offers superior lockdown, and not just through snugness. There is ample of support provided in the upper through the use of a more rigid grid mesh in the rear (the Basalt gray part of the shoe as in the picture above), orange gilly-like straps on both the medial and lateral sides extending from the lacing down to the bottom of the heel cup (also as pictured) and logo-ing on both medial and lateral sides. Personally, the lockdown offered in the heel cup is superb.
The mid and forefoot features a simple breathable mesh with enough reinforcement in the toe cup/bumper. The gusseted tongue and FormFit sockliner also works well. The heel cup is superbly padded.
Derek: I really like the aesthetics on the new Ride 16. I have the Ride 14 and 15 and while they perform really well, the aesthetics were quite basic.
The Ride 16 really ups the ante here and personally, I think the laces are the biggest contributor here. This is primarily an upper update and so we are going to focus a lot more on that here.
Step in feel is comfortable, though noticeable more snug in the mid-foot, compared to Ride 15. Fortunately, heel and toe box volume are still pretty similar. The fit is true to size. Sam has already gone into detail on the some changes to the upper. The rigid heel counter remains the same shape and hardness for me, and I really like how it cradles the heel in this shoe (and indeed also in the Ride 15).
There are 3 key differences for me. Firstly, the mesh is thicker, even at the toe box. It’s probably not very perceptible in cold climates but it is pretty obvious once you start running in warm conditions in it. The shoe in general does not breathe as well as v15. This is going to be a non-issue for most people but something to be aware of if you are from a warmer country. Secondly, the tongue in the Ride is gusseted. In v15, the gussets are very thin, slightly elastic and perforated. See below.
In v16, they changed the gussets by adding an extra non-perforated layer on the inside, such that it’s now a double layer. This does not really stretch and presumably adds midfoot support.
For me this extra thickness of the gussets probably explains a lot of the perceived increased mid-foot snugness for the Ride 16. I am ambivalent about the change to the gusset design. I think the Ride midsole/outsole platform is plenty stable as is, and you don’t really need the extra support from a more substantial gusset. That said, the extra snugness, paired with thinner socks, does give you a more performance-oriented feel the shoe once you lace things up, so… it’s a neutral update for me here.
For people with low arches, the Ride comes in a Wide version so there are always options. The third key update for me is the choice of laces. These textured laces are amazing. The aesthetics are incredible and really add flavor to the whole shoe, but more than that, the laces hold tension really well because of the textured surface, and in a way that doesn’t create excess pressure on the foot, the way textured laces popularized by some other big name brand seems to do.
For reference, the Ride 15 was spec'd with thin, flat, very elastic laces which were sometimes a pain to deal with. The same laces were used on the Tempus and the Endorphin Speed 3. Those laces were fine for the first few miles, but seemed to stretch more and lose tension as they got wet from sweat as the run progressed, often necessitating a re-lace after 6 miles for me. All in all, the new upper is ok for me. I have less versatility in terms of sock choices, but I get a little better wrap and mid-foot lockdown in the shoe.
Jeff: I too have missed out on the previous Ride, so while it sounds like a subtle update, it’s effectively a brand new shoe to me - and a quite striking one at that. More cushioned than the Kinvara, less cushioned than the Triumph, the Ride has always been that in between that served well for a lighter weight and uptempo, if not all out fast, shoe in my rotation.
The upper is well executed. It holds the foot nicely and it breathes well, while being comfortable, I wouldn’t go so far to put it in the plush camp. I usually favor comfort over weight savings, but for my 10.5 to barely tip the scale over 9 ounces with that much midsole stack, I can’t complain a bit about the upper. I doubt many runners are going to have issues getting good lockdown, the lacing is very well done.
Sizing is true-to-size in length, and I would say the same for the width. All the narrow width talk above took me aback because I didn’t notice any problems with my slightly-wider-than-normal foot. My colleagues brought it up enough that I had to go back and double check that they hadn’t sent me a 10.5 Wide - and they did not. I could see full on wide footed runners needing to go that route, but there’s enough stretch, especially up front, that the standard width fits me just fine.
Midsole
Sam: The midsole is Saucony’s PWRRUN EVA/TPU blend and as far as I can tell remains unchanged. As in the Ride 15, we have a beaded TPU PWRRUN+ sockliner for a touch of initial step in comfort and on the run rebound.
The full stack height of 35mm heel / 27mm forefoot remains unchanged as does the overall weight.
The midsole feel is moderately firm, very vibration absorbing, and responsive. By responsive I mean that the midsole reacts quickly and sharply and is not bouncy soft or springy as supercritical foams are. It is also very stable and consistent in feel.
I particularly like the flexible (after 10 miles or so), deeply cushioned and stable forefoot of the Ride 16 (and 15). It reacts quite quickly and always smoothly. I also liked the Ride 13/14 forefoot which got to the same place, responsive toe offs but with less cushion and with big bars of rubber provide the pop. I guess the forefoot feel of a Ride is a critical element of the design!
The heel as said above is very very stable and actually a bit noisy and clumpy if again quick reacting and with excellent flow to midfoot.
I wonder what slightly softer foam would do for the ride but all in all this midsole is excellent for just about any training and with the light weight at sub 9 oz it can do almost all training duties for me. I do wish it had a bit more spring and bounce, a bit more softness but for that I can reach for the Endorphin Speed 3.
Bryan: Sam has covered the technicalities of the Ride 16 very well. The PWRRUN EVA/TPU blend midsole foam in a 35mm heel stack provides ample protection and cushioning whilst remaining flexible, which has been a hallmark of the Ride series in past years. The ride, which I will talk more about below, is smooth like butter, partly due to the midsole foam’s strong ability to dampen vibrations and also due to the stability provided by the stable platform with minimal cutouts. It's basically a fantastically implemented slab of PWRRUN foam.
The sensation and ride in terms of protection and dampening provided by the midsole is similar to that of Skechers’s supercritical foam as used in the Go Ride series, but the nature of its responsiveness is different. It’s quite firm as compared to today’s daily trainer offerings such as Asics Novablast 3 and Nike Infinity React 3 which are more bouncy, but it is very responsive in that there is a level of pop upon toe off. Its firmness is similar to that of New Balance’s 1080 v12 but it has a far more inspiring ride.
For every day runs where my legs aren’t completely thrashed, the Ride 16 is a shoe I readily turn to. It has a good mix of stability, protection and flexibility which when combined is moderately easy on the legs and feet. Its firmness prevents it from being a ‘one-shoe rotation’, but it is more than capable of being a mainstay feature of a runner’s rotation.
Derek: The key with PWRRUN seems to be that initial break-in period. It’s true for the Ride 15 and 16, as it is for the Kinvaras and Endorphin Shifts out there. I think the geometry is near perfect for a daily trainer here, and I agree with Sam there’s a lot of potential there if you could use a more exciting foam. Maybe a dual density PWRRUN / PWRRUN PB type shoe and call it the Ride Pro.
I am going to be in the minority here and say I tend to prefer a more prominent rocker in the shoe, even for a daily trainer. I think the Ride flexes just a little too much that while it makes it better at easier paces, takes away from its potential for tempo/speed work. Fans of the Ride 15 will not find any difference in the underfoot experience in the Ride 16. The geometry is unchanged.
Jeff: There’s no two ways about it - the PWRRUN midsole is firm. Even with a very healthy midsole stack, that level of firmness isn’t my preferred method of cushioning. Not that every shoe needs to be soft and bouncy like the big brother Triumph 20, but just a little softer would go a long way for me. I like Derek’s idea of incorporating some PWRRUN PB from the Xodus Ultra. Just a little bit more give would be incredible.
Outsole
Sam: The outsole remains unchanged with rubber in all the right places and a deep continuous decoupling groove that moves the foot along very smoothly. The outsole configuration is not the best on snow but otherwise grip is good and durability should be good.
Bryan: Unlike for Sam, there is no snow in Melbourne! Unfortunately I have managed to avoid all of Melbourne’s unusually wet summer (La Nina Southern Oscillation for you weather geeks). That said, I have been able to test the Ride 16 on grass, bitumen, gravel and concrete including some sharp corners. I found there to be no issue with durability and traction in the aforementioned conditions. The outsole complements the stability provided by the midsole well. The decoupling groove certainly aids in the flex offered by the Ride 16.
Jeff: I didn’t enjoy the grip on wet pavement either, and we’ve had plenty of that as of late. That said, the Ride 16 has been great on the treadmill, and paired with the dense and stable midsole, help make it a dynamite gym shoe, even for bigger guys like myself. When things are dry and not freezing I prefer to run outside, and they run just fine out in the real world.
Ride
Sam: A pure, serious, highly cushioned and responsive training ride at any distance and pretty much any pace. I sense no changes from the 15 beyond yet more upper support and stability at the rear of the shoe. We often talk about “single shoe in the quiver” trainers and Ride 16’s ride clearly exemplifies that. Is it a speed day shoe? For some sure and especially if you want a stable well cushioned forefoot with a consistent feel and that nice response but more specialized shoes including plated ones will have a bit more explosive pop.
Bryan: I might have covered most of this in the midsole section, but I can only echo what Sam has said. It is a brilliantly responsive training shoe that provides an ample cushion with just about the right amount of firmness that is capable of 75% of my running mileage, the 25% being speed work and those recovery runs where my feet need the forgiving softness of a shoe like the Asics Nimbus 24/25. The ride is suited for moderately easy days all the way up to long uptempo runs. As I said early on, the ride is smooth like butter.
Derek: The Ride 16 is a moderately cushioned, somewhat firm and stable shoe that works well over a decent range of paces. I find the flex to be a bit too much for fast running, but that’s more a matter of personal preference. I find the cushioning to be ample up to about 10-12 miles, but would prefer a more substantial shoe for longer runs.
Jeff: My kingdom for just a little more squish, bounce, and really anything, I find the ride of the Ride just a little dull. It doesn’t have the geometry first design philosophy of the similarly equipped Endorphin Shift, and it doesn’t have the material advantage of the Triumph 20 and its super bouncy and cush PWRRUN+. As a bigger guy that leaves me with a well cushioned and unbelievably light shoe that brings very little joy to any of my runs in them.
Conclusions and Recommendations
Sam: Saucony did not mess with a good thing! The Ride 16 carries forward the reliable, lightweight goodness of the Ride 15 underfoot with a new yet more secure upper, to a fault for me at the midfoot rear as a bit overdone and snug there but with more friendly toe box room.
Apart from racing and speed shoes the Ride 16 is about all I need for road training. It has plenty of responsive if firmer but protective cushion, is very stable without getting in the way of moving forward at all paces, and even looks sharp.
Not every update has to be monumental as last year’s was and here Saucony sharpened the looks for sure, increased the front comfort and dialed in a yet higher performance oriented fit. What might the future hold? I would wish for a slightly softer, more springy midsole foam to update PWRRUN and we can be sure Saucony is working on it!
Sam's Score: 9.65 /10
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Derek: The Ride 16 is a capable and predictable daily trainer that is going to be very good for people looking for one shoe to handle most of their runs. The underfoot experience is not radically special, but that’s also what makes it great. The simplicity of the ride is what makes it truly unique as a daily trainer, straddling that line between rockered and unrockered trainers very well.
Derek’s Score 8.62/10
Ride: 8.5 (50%) Fit: 8.5 (30%) Value: 8.8 (15%) Style: 10 (5%)
Smiles Score: 😊😊😊1/2
Jeff: As more and more truly revolutionary shoes come out, the Ride 16 feels like a throwback to a few years ago. I don’t mean that as a pejorative, not everyone wants soft and bouncy shoes, and this is a great shoe for those folks. While I am truly impressed by how light the shoe is for how much material is under the foot, the standard issue PWRRUN midsole is a very dull run for me, and without the exaggerated rocker of its sibling Endorphin Shift, and for my heavy frame I find it very uninspiring and underwhelming to run in - though it’s stable platform makes it a solid cross trainer, especially on leg day.
Jeff’s Score 7.85/10
Ride: 7 (50%) Fit: 9 (30%) Value: 8 (15%) Style: 9 (5%)
Bryan: I think I may have overused the word ‘brilliant’ but the Ride 16 really is… brilliant. It is one of those shoes where only a few words need to be used to describe it as it simply works. Great lockdown fit, smooth ride, sufficiently light, versatile, stable and looks great. Perhaps my only wish, and I may be nitpicking here, is for it to be 10% softer and bouncier so it would be capable of 85% instead of 75% of my mileage. But then what is the point of a healthy shoe rotation!
Bryan’s Score 9.58/10
Ride: 9.75 (50%) Fit: 9 (30%) Value (including durability): 10 (15%) Style: 10 (5%)
Smiles Score: 😊😊😊😊😊
7 Comparisons
Saucony Guide 16 (RTR Review)
Sam: The companion stability trainer with the same stack height as the Ride 16 also gets a similar upper update with slightly broader Gilly straps and a slightly roomier overall fit for me than the Ride. It differs otherwise from the Ride 16 in having a medial curve shaped plastic stability element.
It also has more extensive stablizing rubber on the medial side. With the now yet more secure rear upper of the Ride 16, I think those with mild pronation control needs should also look at the Ride as it too is plenty stable, lighter and is less in your face with the support. I also find the Guide 16's upper interestingly for a support shoe more comfortable and less overwhelming in rear support.
Saucony Triumph 20 (RTR Review)
Jeff: The big brother to the Ride, the Triumph boasts a higher stack and a more premium midsole material, PWRRUN+ which is all expanded TPU vs the Ride’s EVA/TPU blend. Previous iterations were a little on the dense side of the spectrum, but the latest iteration of PWRRUN+ made it lighter, softer, and bouncier. While they have a similar stack height, the Triumph is about an ounce heavier - but the midsole performance is a world apart. The more plush upper in the Triumph is just gravy.
Saucony Endorphin Shift 3 (RTR Review)
Jeff: Another Saucony trainer to feature PWRRUN, the Endorphin Shift has an even bigger slab of the midsole underfoot, but it uses a much more pronounced rocker geometry to get things moving. While the extra midsole and more plush upper make it about an ounce heavier, the performance gained from the rocker for me as a forefoot striker is more than worth making a 9 oz shoe now a 10 oz shoe.
Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 (RTR Review)
Sam: My shoe of the year 2022 the Speed has 1mm more stack and is about 1 oz lighter. With supercritcial Pb foam it is both softer and lighter, snappier (nylon plate), is springier and has more rebound than the Ride. Its upper is not nearly as supportive unless you go with the RunShield version. It leans.. Speed more than the Ride and actually makes a nice pairing but if you are looking for a reliable everyday trainer I would lean Ride here.
GEL-Nimbus 25 (RTR Review)
Sam: More massively cushioned, considerably heavier and broader, the Nimbus does not move off its heel as swiftly as the Ride 15 and doesn’t have as smooth a toe off. Its upper is pure luxury and while not as performance oriented, more comfortable and adequately secure for most run paces.
Bryan: Slightly more stacked at 42mm and also 42g / 1.5 oz heavier, the Nimbus 25 is ultra soft in comparison to the Ride 16. The upper of the Nimbus 25 doesn’t particularly work well for me with its wide toe box, but it feels a lot plusher.
Given its bulk, I am not comfortable running in the Nimbus at pace even though it is meant to be an every day trainer as well. In recent weeks I have been testing these two shoes, and have found myself using the Ride 16 for most runs and only using the Nimbus 25 for recovery runs. They are almost complementary to each other.
Jeff: Give me the extra cushion and more dynamic Nimbus every day, the softer landing and bounce makes it one of those shoes that make you smile mid-run, the polar opposite of the Ride 16
New Balance Fresh Foam 880 v12 (RTR Review)
Bryan: New Balance went softer, broader, and less performance fitting for this traditional direct competitor to the Ride. Not for me, but if you want a more mellow traditional daily trainer it is to be considered but I find it comparatively sloppy in fit and ride.
Sam: Agree 100% with Bryan here. New Balance's modernization of its classic daily trainer takes it further away from the essence of such shoes than the Ride 16 which keeps its DNA while providing a more modern ride.
Adidas Boston 11 (RTR Review)
Derek: I am true to size in both shoes. The Boston 11 uses nylon rods and is more of a heavier duty rockered type of daily trainer. I think the Boston 11 (and indeed 10) has better cushioned and vibration dampening than the Ride 16 and seems to cruise a bit better at moderate paces. I have navigated 20 milers fine in the Boston, while my feet tend to get sore in the Ride 16 by mile 12. The main drawback of the Boston is its weight and that makes it a poor choice for any kind of pace surge. The upper is also a lot less supportive than in the Ride 16.For other types of runs, the Boston is at least as good as the Ride 16. Overall, I think the Ride 16 is a better shoe for lower mileage runners, but if you are more of a high volume runner, the Boston is a better choice.
Puma Velocity Nitro 2 (RTR Review)
Derek: I am true to size in both shoes. I make this comparison because the Velocity is another very popular non-plated daily trainer. The key difference here is that the Velocity has a more traditional geometry (i.e. no rocker) whereas the Ride 16 has more of a forefoot rocker, albeit with pretty good flex. Both have similar degrees of underfoot cushioning. The Ride 16 is just under an ounce lighter (35/27 stack vs measured 33/23 for Velocity Nitro 2) and feels like an overall sprightlier shoe to run in. I prefer the Ride 16.
Mizuno Wave Horizon 6 (RTR Review)
Bryan: The Wave Horizon 6 is to me a clunkier version of New Balance’s 1080 v12 weighing in at a whopping 317g / 11.2 oz in US9. But the ride is less sloppy than that of the 1080 and is slightly reminiscent of the Ride 16’s. However, it is too stable in having an ultra wide platform which renders it slightly clumsy, but is otherwise energetic and lively like the Ride 16’s. However the Ride 16 is perfectly stable which makes it just so much more versatile.The Saucony Ride 16 will release in early April 2023
Tester Profiles
Sam is the Editor and Founder of Road Trail Run. He is 65 with a 2018 3:40 Boston qualifier. 2022 was Sam’s 50th year of running. He has a decades old 2:28 marathon PR. These days he runs halves in the just sub 1:40 range, if he is very lucky, training 30-40 miles per week mostly at moderate paces on the roads and trails of New Hampshire and Utah. He is 5’9” tall and weighs about 164 lbs, if he is not enjoying too many fine New England IPA’s.
Bryan is a road and trail runner living in Melbourne, Australia. He is a consistent sub 1:25 half marathoner with a personal best of 1:22, and is presently chasing a sub 3-hour marathon. He is176cm tall and weighs about 68kg / 150lbs.
Derek is in his 40’s and trains 70-80 miles per week at 7 to 8 minute pace in mostly tropical conditions in Singapore. He has a 2:39 marathon PR from the 2022 Zurich Marathon.
Jeff Beck is the token slow runner of the RTR lineup, and as such his viewpoints on shoe and gear can differ from those who routinely finish marathons in three hours or less. Jeff runs 20 miles per week on roads and trails around Denver, CO (and sometimes on the treadmill when the weather gets too much for a Phoenix native). Jeff only got into running in his 30s, as a result his career PR's are 4:07 for the marathon and 5K at 23:39. Jeff has finished several ultra marathons, from 50K up to 50 miles, and is still debating if he wants to go down that road again.
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2 comments:
Hi Sam, thanks for the review. How does the Ride 16 compare to the Kinvara 14? I would think they're pretty similar at this point.
-Ben
Hi team
I’d love it if you could tell me how Ride 16 compares to Brooks Hyperion Max!?
Thanks a bunch
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