Tuesday, July 13, 2021

Hoka ONE ONE Rincon 3 Multi Tester Review: One Heck of a Lot of Refined, Fast, Smooth Riding, and Light Shoe for $115

Article by Jeff Beck and Sam Winebaum

Hoka ONE ONE Rincon 3 ($115)


Introduction

Jeff: Hoka introduced the Rincon a few years ago, and it was surprising. Not just because they released a sub-$120 shoe, but more so that it was also really, really good. While it didn’t set the world on fire with new technology or exotic materials, it did give a fun and bouncy ride in a lightweight package. It also muddied the waters a bit, because in many ways it started to out-Clifton the Clifton. A year later the Rincon 2 was introduced with a slight upper revision, and runners continued to enjoy it.

And now we have the Rincon 3 which changes some, but the overall feeling and theme is unchanged. “Inexpensive”, “ridiculously lightweight”, and “fun to run in” continue to be the tentpoles of the Rincon. The midsole and outsole have been reworked to create an even softer and bouncier ride, and the upper is changed as well. Does that mean it is the perfect shoe? Well...maybe for some.


Sam: The Rincon 1 and 2 set a very high bar in the reasonably priced high performance super light trainer class competing against shoes such as the Fresh Foam Beacon, Brooks Revel, and more recently the Puma Liberate Nitro and Rebel v2.  


At 7.2 oz / 204g in a US9 for this version with a great cushion (29/24) to weight ratio it is one heck of a lot of shoe for the weight and price, as Rincons have been in the past. The design focus was to balance the Hoka feel with lightness while delivering a responsive ride. To accomplish this Hoka says they carried out an “aggressive redesign”, “melding a multitude of precision details” into their midsole foam and outsole design. The foam is a new compound that is said to be slightly more durable, an issue with earlier Rincon.

At first glance I can see of course the smooth sleek and for sure bright upper but more midsole side wall grooves, a now familiar in 2021 landing and levering forward small swallowtail, a new outsole pattern with more front and rear coverage and underfoot flex grooves that are more longitudinal. Clearly the geometric design follows the 2021 Hoka trend (Mach 4, Arahi 5, to a certain extent Clifton 8) of more continuous flex and flow to go with the Meta Rocker design. 


From Hoka:


"The toe box is similar, though there may be a little more give with the new upper materials. The Rincon is now also available in wide for the first time! 


Durability improvements were one of the main focuses with this update, and there is both increased rubber coverage, and a more durable midsole foam compared to V1& 2. The increase in rubber coverage (heaviest material on shoes) also highlights how lightweight these new foams that we are working with really are, as the Rincon 3 clocks in 0.5 oz / 14g lighter than the previous version."


As Hoka’s do it all light and nimble trainer and for sure also racer of the non plated variety, I was eager to see how they run as all the preceding have improved the Hoka ride for me by no longer forcing as much knee drive to move along. 

 

Pros:

Superb weight to cushion to  price ($115) to performance ratios: Sam/Jeff

Very light 7.2 oz / 214g weight for big 29/24 stack: Sam/Jeff

Near ideal energetic responsive highly cushioned long tempo run or race ride of the plateless variety Sam/Jeff

Swallowtail is effective in mitigating 5mm drop and any bottoming out while moving the foot forward Sam/Jeff

Very versatile Sam/Jeff

 

Cons:

Tongue is short, lace tongue combination tends to slide down. Sam

Wonder what this already excellent ride would be and weigh with a supercritical foam Sam/Jeff

2-3mm too narrow in the midfoot and toebox: Jeff


Stats

 Official Weight: men's 7.4 oz / 210g (US9)  /  women's 6.2 / 176g (US8)

  Estimated Weight 7.2 oz / 204g  (US9)

  Samples: men’s  6.95 oz / 197g (US8.5) 7.79 oz / 221g (US10.5)

Stack Height: men’s 29/24 women’s 26/21

Available August including wide. Pre Order up now at Running Warehouse HERE. $115  

Tester Profiles

Jeff is the token slow runner of the RTR lineup, and as such his viewpoints on shoe and gear can differ from those who routinely finish marathons in three hours or less. Jeff runs 30 miles per week on roads and trails around Denver, CO (and sometimes on the treadmill when the weather gets too much for a Phoenix native). Jeff only got into running in his 30s, as a result his career PR's are 4:07 for the marathon and 5K at 23:39. Jeff has finished several ultra marathons, from 50K up to 50 miles, and is still debating if he wants to go down that road again.


Sam is the Editor and Founder of Road Trail Run. He is 64 with a 2018 3:40 Boston qualifier. Sam has been running for over 48 years and has a 2:28 marathon PR. These days he runs halves in the just sub 1:40 range training 30-40 miles per week mostly at moderate paces on the roads and trails of New Hampshire and Utah. He is 5’9” tall and weighs about 164 lbs if he is not enjoying to many fine New England IPA.



First Impressions and Fit

Jeff: I’m fairly certain you’re going to see a lot of these on the feet of fans at Miami Dolphins games. Not only because they are super orange and teal, but also because they’re comfortable for even casual use and they breathe really well. It seems like over the last few years we’re seeing more and more outlandish colorways on running shoes, but this one might take the cake for its brightness. It’s been about two years since I ran in the Rincon 1, so I did a double take at first - the changes to the shoe are there, if subtle, but the step in feel is really something else for a shoe that’s sub-8 ounces for a men’s 10.5. As for fit, the length is great and spot on for true-to-size. The width? That’s not nearly as clear cut, and I’ll dive deeper into that in the upper section.

Sam: The Rincon is super bright and cheery! Other 2021 Hoka have followed this design trend which really highlights their overlay free uppers. Even the trail racer Zinal (RTR Review) has a seemingly flimsy upper that actually wraps the foot magnificently.

Here the same but as a $115 shoe the single layer mesh is somewhat less pliable and a bit plasticky. On the foot we have a smooth, smooth to the touch slightly slippery in feel fit. I recall the Rincon 1 had a baggy sort of mesh. Here it stands up if you will better while wrapping gently and securely.  My pair is a perfect true to size for my narrow left foot and wider right foot with plenty of toe box height volume if not a super wide fit. It is important to realize this is a high platform shoe with no overlays (beyond a few internal at mid foot), some new found flex and a gentle toe bumper so any slop would reduce the shoe’s effectiveness in keeping the foot on the platform.  


Upper

Jeff: The Rincon 3 upper is made from a lightweight mesh with virtually zero overlays. The upper still has some structure, it isn’t a flimsy single layer, though it is seemingly as breathable as other shoes with far less upper. The tongue stands alone, no bootie or gussetting, and while it gets pretty thin at the top with a synthetic plastic/rubber reinforcement, it is adequately cushioned to nullify lace pressure. It also has an asymmetrical notch at the top, so it doesn’t irritate the extensor tendons on top of the foot. The heel counter has some give to it, but again, not flimsy, though the heel pull tab feels like a rough draft. It’s a thin cord that isn’t very comfortable to use, but at least the loop is big enough to get a couple fingers through. Hoka is proud to announce that the upper materials are 100% vegan.


As for my experience? As Shakespeare said “My kingdom for another 2-3mm of width”. If the upper was just a little bit wider it would drastically change my take on this shoe. Because the upper holds the foot really well, and it breathes incredibly well (95 degrees and smoky in Denver is not an ideal run, and my feet were the only part of me not overheating), but the area from the toebox back to the midfoot is borderline uncomfortably tight for me. Not to say that it is a narrow shoe, but it certainly isn’t a wide one. Runners who have a normal to slightly-narrow foot will likely have none of the issues I’ve had, while slightly wider footed runners unfortunately are very unlikely to get away with running five-to-ten miles unscathed in the Rincon. In less than three miles I had three fledgling blisters (one on each small toe, and one on the outside of a big toe) announcing their presence as loudly as the Blazing Orange/Fiesta colorway. And if the shoe was a big bummer, I’d be okay with that - but because the shoe is so good otherwise, it’s a real disappointment.

Sam: Jeff describes the details of the upper well. It holds my narrower to medium foot super well and comfortably. While not as warm where I am but super humid, I noted the single layer upper with diagonal slots was very breathable and didn’t absorb much moisture. The mesh material reminds me somewhat of the Novablast 1’s upper but more pliable and thinner. 

I would call the upper “performance comfort” well tuned to the Rincon’s multi purpose uses of daily training, uptempo, and racing.

The only knock on the upper for me is the tongue length and grip. 


It feels a touch too short and seems to slip down a bit more than I would like. Maybe the really fine bite free laces are a touch too slippery to hold the tongue in place? 


Midsole

Jeff: Hoka continued to use compression molded EVA for the Rincon 3 (S38x24|V603|W215 if any of you have cracked the code of what Hoka prints on the side of the midsole - and please give us your Rosetta Stone down in the comments if you have)  Sam: S stands for stack height, V for volume of the midsole, and W for weight in grams, I think but getting confirmation from Hoka as stack height seems different than spec. Coming right off of testing the Clifton 8 and Bondi X I was ready to be underwhelmed. And yet, I was not. The men’s stack is 24mm in the forefoot and 29mm in the heel, lower than either of the other two Hoka’s, but it feels as well cushioned, if not better. Perhaps it's the ridiculously light weight of the shoe, or perhaps it’s a slightly different blend of EVA, but this shoe punches way above its weight class. Or price point There’s a slight recession under the heel, where the exposed midsole cuts away for a few millimeters, but it doesn’t seem to reduce the quality of cushioning. And the cushioning is really nothing shy of exceptional. While we’re seeing more and more shoes kill it with new midsoles, this might be the pinnacle of EVA. It’s just that good.



Sam: Yup punches way above its weight class as Jeff says! To pressing and on the run the Rincon 3 is slightly softer than the Clifton 8’s foam which I find duller and more ponderous in comparison. Here the midsole has a forgiving yet taut quick rebound, not exactly bounce (as say in Flightfoam Blast in Novablast or Zoom X)  but more a sensation that the entire midsole depth is smoothly and decisively returning energy while at the same time providing a very protective cushion, and particularly so at the forefoot.  The foam compound is new and is said to be slightly more durable than the foam in the earlier Rincon.


The Rincon is a 5mm drop shoe and I recall feeling that the Rincon 1’s heel was low and a bit firm. Here not nearly as much and I think I think we  must credit the moderate swallowtail which provides a crash pad for us heel strikers while also levering the landing forward more quickly than say the Clifton’s more conventional rear of shoe.  The result is now a heel feel that for me was perfectly fine a slower paces, something that I can’t recall Rincon 1 being able to so nicely do. Mind you this is not a plush plush landing at slow paces but a perfectly adequate one.










The new additional side wall grooves and deeper rear cavity in combination with more longitudinal flex grooves, and some front flex follow that swallowtail landing with smoother fluid transitions and toe offs. And the additional front outsole coverage likely provides a touch more snap and response. 


Overall a really nice performance with cushion midsole package, no mush and also no harshness. The question remains if the foam will retain its rebound with miles but I doubt you will go through two of the Rincon in the time it takes to go through a fancier foam shoe.


Speaking of fancier and often lighter super critical foams such as Puma’s Nitro, Zoom X, Hyperburst, etc.. We have admirable weight and stack here but I wonder what a Rincon with an often yet lighter and more resilient foam might deliver in terms of ride, durability, and weight.  


Outsole

Jeff: As you probably expected, there isn’t much rubber on the outsole of a shoe that is this lightweight. You’ve got a small chain of rubber along the heel going slightly forward on the lateral edge, and then another chain of rubber pods wrapping around itself underneath the ball of the foot forward to the end of the shoe. That rubber construction keeps the shoe plenty flexible and super lightweight, and I’ve seen very little wear in the gaps between the rubber. 


My concern is in the big, open exposed midsole in the midfoot, which is wearing pretty quickly for me - but I’m a heavyweight midfoot striker, so I’m kind of this shoe’s worst case scenario. Heel strikers will be putting the initial contact into the rubber at the back, and most runners do land further back. And while the pods are starting to compress immediately, I’d venture to guess that runners will get at least 250 miles before things go completely pear-shaped. And while that number sounds low, keep in mind at the $115 price point it still has a better price-per-mile (and definitely price-per-smile) than most shoes on the market today.

The outsole is zonal and carefully targeted to key wear areas but for sure isn’t extensive. The good news is that the heel and forefoot coverage of rubber is increased over the Rincon 2’s outsole as shown below.


Ride

Jeff: The Rincon 3’s ride might be the best example of blending a bouncy ride with a modern geometry/rocker design, and it works really well. While some shoes (thinking Saucony Endorphin Shift or ASICS Glideride) rely on the exaggerated geometry to get your feet turning over quickly, the Rincon has some of that, but with a much more dynamic midsole material. And the result is an absolute blast to run in. On my initial run I kept finding myself out of breath, only to realize that I was running much faster than I intended. There’s no plate in this shoe, carbon fiber or otherwise, but between the light weight and bouncy nature does encourage you to run faster. Eventually I was able to get back into my easy pace, and it’s still got a great ride, but it definitely gets better as the speed picks up.

Sam: A superb ride here that blends cushion, energy, and a smooth flow from the geometric changes. I particularly like that the Rincon has a nice forward flex point to go with its rocker reminiscent of the adidas flex point so not only slower pace toe offs are accommodated but at faster paces you can dig in after the rocker and fly. Those wanting a light daily trainer will find the ride more than adequate in terms of cushion and versatility. Those seeking a light highly cushioned racer without a plate can also look to the Rincon 3 as a top choice. 


Conclusions and Recommendations

Jeff: There aren’t many shoes I’ve tested that I’ve enjoyed and hated so much at the same time. Nearly everything about the shoe is incredible, but it just isn’t wide enough for me. Taking the fit out of the equation, the upper is lightweight, holds to foot well, and is really breathable, the midsole is fun and bouncy while muting the ground strike, and both the cost and weight are something of legend; they're so good. But it’s just too narrow for me to spend more than just a few miles in them. That said - slightly narrower footed runners get to spend the rest of 2021 running in an incredibly fun and inexpensive shoe. Meanwhile I’ll be with the pack of wider footed runners, outside in the cold, staring in with jealousy as we drain our blisters and taking solace that there are dozens of other great shoes out there right now - this one just isn’t for us.

Jeff’s Score 8.8/10

Ride: 10 (50%) Fit: 6 (30%) Value: 10 (15%) Style: 10 (5%)


Sam: Sometimes simple refined is better. Take a moderately lively and protective slab of foam, tune the geometry of the midsole (with a swallowtail and side and underside flex grooves) to improve the flow, give it just enough and now some more outsole, a very fine simple upper and a value price and you get the Rincon 3. 


In a landscape of exotic materials, escalating pricing, and wild geometries Hoka has delivered on the details with a finely, very finely tuned trainer to racer. I personally will use them for uptempo efforts and am seriously considering them as the non-carbon plated alternative for 10K and above races. I had no issues with fit beyond the tongue being short and slipping down some. While the midsole and ride is very, very solid in terms of ride excitement and light weight, I would like to see Hoka move to the yet more resilient and often more exciting and lighter supercritical foams here and elsewhere in their range. 

Sam’s Score: 9.40 /10

Ride: 9.4 (50%) Fit: 9 (30%) Value: 10 (15%) Style: 10 (5%)

Watch Sam's Initial Rincon 3 Video Review (10:51)


8 Comparisons

Index to all RTR reviews: HERE


Hoka ONE ONE Rincon 1

Jeff: It’s been a few years, but this shoe is very reminiscent of it's grandfather shoe - both lightweight, inexpensive, and fun to run in. The 3 is more refined, and if memory serves it is a little softer and bouncier than the original Rincon, with a slightly more effective outsole.

Sam: What Jeff recalls. I didn’t reach for them as much after test as I will the R3. A harsher if fast ride and less smooth flowing although still fine.


Hoka ONE ONE Rincon 2 (RTR Rincon 2 Review)

Sam: Hoka sent me a pair of Rincon 2 to closely compare, after the review posted as I had not run them. I took them for an A/B test run, one on each foot. The differences were clear: Rincon 3 is slightly softer and bouncier (new foam and geometry), has a smoother, more flexible toe off and for sure has a roomier upper. Rincon 2 is a touch stiffer, firmer, and snappier with clearly less upper volume especially at the ball of the foot. I get into all the comparative details in the video below.




Hoka ONE ONE Clifton 8 (RTR Review)

Jeff: Hard not to see the similarities here, the Clifton might as well be the Rincon Plus. It’s got a little more midsole, a little more outsole, a little more upper, and the result is somehow less. It’s roughly two ounces heavier and the ride, while more cushioned, isn’t as bouncy and fun. And sadly for me, it might be even more narrow than the Rincon but is available in wide. If width isn’t an issue for you, save the $15 and try the lighter weight Rincon.

Sam: The Clifton 8 has a slightly firmer (and likely more resilient durable)  midsole, no longitudinal flex grooves with shallower cavities, more rubber,  and no swallowtail. The  ride difference is clear. More ponderous to transition, heavier, a touch more stable and leaning daily training harder than uptempo as Rincon does. 


Hoka Mach 4 (RTR Review)

Sam: For about 0.8 oz more at the same 29/24 stack height you get a more pronounced swallowtail and more stable heel, rubberized foam midsole as outsole on the road, a touch less and a longer flex. The Mach 4 leans more daily training than Rincon 3 and is not as agile, responsive  and quick feeling as Rincon but is an excellent and somewhat safer shoe as an all arounder and for me far superior to Clifton 8 for that purpose. 


New Balance FuelCell Rebel v2 (RTR Review)

Sam: A tiny touch more weight  and a tiny touch less front stack height for Rebel. A very close comparison. Rebel has a supercritical bouncier foam in FuelCell (the same flavor as in the top end RC Elite 2) while Rincon’s EVA is more measured and overall is more stable. Rebel has more extensive outsole rubber to stabilize its softer bouncier foam and it is effective and likely will be more durable. Rebel is for sure more fun to run but harder to tame for more mundane daily miles so less versatile for me. It belongs in every quiver but if you need to focus on fewer shoes and a more reliable kind of shoe Rincon is a safer if not quite as exciting but close bet.

 

Craft CTM Ultra  (RTR Review)

Jeff: Think of the CTM Ultra as the exotic European Rincon. It’s got a more complicated and higher stacked midsole, and much flimsier upper, but for me, it also comes in a width that isn’t miserable to wear. The extra cushioning (and extra $45) of the Craft doesn’t equate into a more fun ride, so if you have the foot shape for Rincon, I’d suggest you go with that.

Sam: The CTM Ultra much higher stacked at close to 40mm heel / 30mm forefoot. It is remarkably stable for such a high stack and very minimal upper. It has a similar (mostly EVA) if more cushioned midsole feel enhanced by a central PEBA insert. It weighs just under 2 oz more but runs very light for its weight. The higher drop, extra cushion, and PEBA make it a nice long run compliment to the Rincon although for shorter faster efforts Rincon is a better choice for me,


Atreyu Base Model  (RTR Review)

Jeff: While the Rincon is one of the least expensive and lightest shoes on the market right now, the Atreyu comes in $40 less and is more than an ounce lighter. That said, it doesn’t have nearly the ride of the Rincon and is likely to wear out even that much faster with the complete lack of rubber outsole. But price, durability, and cost are all side notes, the ride is everything in this comparison with the Rincon feeling bouncing and fun, and the Atreyu feeling dull and lifeless in comparison. The Atreyu has a much nicer width, but the difference in ride is staggering - get the Rincon.


Puma Liberate Nitro  (RTR Review)

Sam: The strongest comparative for me. At 6.49 oz / 184g (US9) Liberate is a big 0.7 oz lighter as it uses Puma very lively Nitro super critical foam. As a 28/18 stack shoe we have a 10mm drop vs. Rincon’s 5mm with the heels about the same with the Rincon having a for sure noticed 6mm more forefoot cushion. Even at its super light weight the Puma has far more rubber coverage and it is grippy and capable. Its mono mesh upper is fine but a bit thin in feel. I prefer the substance of the Rincon’s. And it terms of value it is for sure no slouch as it comes it a $110. Comes down to preferences with the Liberate a totally modernized “race flat” weight but training capable racer trainer and the Hoka a more cushioned (forefoot) trainer racer with a rocker type profile with some front flex.


Adidas SL 20 (RTR Review)

Sam: The adidas budget up tempo shoe is just that uptempo in focus with a considerably firmer midsole plus plastic Torsion system at mid foot delivering a very snappy ride that at least for me is not nearly as pleasant as Rincon fast or slow and SL20 is really not a shoe to go slow in. Just shy of an ounce heavier at just over 8 oz it has about the same heel stack but a considerably lower 18mm forefoot and with all the rubber below it is felt as far firmer than Rincon up front. As a 5K to 10K racer the heavier SL 20 is a good choice for its firm response but does not have nearly the versatility or upper comfort of Rincon but does have plenty more rubber, likely contributing to its weight and firmer ride. 

The Rincon 3 releases August 1, 2021

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13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Sam, how does the toebox compare to that of the Mach 4 with regards to volume and width?

Anonymous said...

Many thanks, Sam. A very thorough, thoughtful review, as always. This might be admittedly a crazy comparison, but I wonder how the Saucony Endorphin Speed’s ride compares to the new Rincon’s. And are both shoes roughly as stable? Thanks again.

Sam Winebaum said...

Hi Anonymous toe box width and height compared to Mach 4,
About the same width but due to materials and less stiff toe bumper Rincon 3 seems to have slightly more over the toes room but overall they are close in fit upfront
Hi Anonymous Endorphin Speed,
Thanks! A worthy comparison. I find the Rincon heel a bit more forgiving (softer) and stable (swallowtail and width of platform) if actually lower in drop while adding the nylon plate to the Speed gives it more propulsion and snap but also makes it less friendly at slower paces.
Sam, Editor

Unknown said...

Great review? Any word on whether Hoka might start making the Rincon 3 available in 2E widths, like the Clifton?

MarkP said...

I loved my OG Rincons, they were the most comfortable shoes I've worn and incredibly light. The biggest complement I can give them is I wore them on a tough marathon and the only time I even thought about them was when another runner commented on them. However, after only around 150 miles all the cushioning seemed dead and my legs started taking a battering. They had a fair bit of cosmetic weat on the exposed outsole but it was the deadening of the foam that forced me to throw them away after 250 miles. Whilst I'm on the heavy side for a runner at around 200lb I'm usually quite easy on shoes with virtually everything else I've owned doing 400 miles plus and, in the case of my Epic React FK2s, up to 575 miles before the foam had deadened (none have had significant outsole wear). It's a shame as I would like to get another pair but I can't justify a shoe that will last may 8 weeks on marathon training at most.

Brett said...

Hello Sam, any thoughts on Rincon 3 vs. Asics EvoRide 2?

thanks much,

B

Sam Winebaum said...

Hi Brett,
The EvoRide 2 (and I would for sure go for lighter upper and shoe Noosa Tri 13 version) is a rigid rocker profile vs the rocker plus flex of the Rincon 3. I prefer some flex if the shoe is not a plated shoe.
Rincon 3 has a 29/24 stack vs. 25/20 for EvoRide and Noosa and is noticeably more cushion and lighter by the ounce. I prefer Rincon 3 but.. don't expect the durability and life I don't think you can expect you would get out of the ASICS even although Hoka says they have improved the midsole durability and outsole coverage, this last clearly seen.
Sam, Editor

Michael said...

To the commenter above, I was just on the Hoka website, and the Rincon 3 is available to preorder in wide width (I assume 2E). Says they begin shipping in early August.

Mike said...

How does this compare to the Skechers Gorun max road 5 and Hyperion tempo? Trying to find a more bouncier/responsive and somewhat stable pair of shoes to rotate Mach 4s with

Sam Winebaum said...

Hi Mike,
You likely would find the Rincon not nearly as bouncy as the Skechers but more firmly responsive if still extremely well cushioned. It will be less stable than the Hyperion Elite or Mach 4( at the heel) but more stable than Skechers.
Sam, Editor

Erkka said...

Hi,
How are they lengthwise compared to X2 and Mach4? I have US10 on the Rincon OG and 2, but US10.5 in the X2 and Mach4

Joe Radzif said...

Hello Sam,

How do you do?

I need your opinion on should I get the Rincon 3 or Mach 4.

Currently I have Rebel v2, Deviate Nitro, Liberate Nitro & Endorphin Speed but never a Hoka in my squadron. I am not a racer, just a slow runner, run about 8-10km daily. I like a lightweight shoes but now I felt they just not have enough foam like Deviate Nitro.

So, I had to choose one from the Hoka stable. Can you recommend one.

Thanks,
Joe Radzif

Sam Winebaum said...

Hi Joe,
Given others in your stable I would first recommend Mach 4 (stable) and then Rincon 3 more in the class of Liberate Nitro (but with more forefoot cushion) and Rebel v2 (not quite as bouncy as Rebel but a touch more stable and cushioned if firmer).’
Sam, Editor