The Freedom ISO takes Saucony, and running shoes in general, in a new direction: low stack heights, a very smooth, continuous underfoot feel and ride, yet with plenty of cushion and bouncy response, topped off by a minimally structured but supportive upper, a new sort of "natural ride".
- a low stack of 19mm heel/15mm forefoot made up of a single slab Everun TPU midsole, approximately 10% firmer than adidas Boost, and a slightly softer Everun top sole.
- an outsole made of a single slab of a new translucent material called Crystal Rubber which also provides some underfoot structure.
- an ISOFit upper that is less structured than in other Saucony ISO models and with no heel counter.
It is a premium shoe at $160. Available December 2016.
Saucony Freedom ISO |
Sam: I don't usually comment on the look of shoes but the Freedom is striking.
The black color way with its camouflage silver and black lines and speckling over a 3 D geometric pattern on the midsole wall transitions the upper color to the white outsole. This makes for a very stealthy, classy look, further enhanced by how low to the ground the shoe is. The translucent outsole with "Everun" showing through is a cool surprise.
Saucony Freedom ISO |
Saucony Freedom ISO |
As I described it after my first run it can thought of as the love child of a Boston Boost for under foot-bouncy cushion, New Balance Zante for simple 2 layer construction, and Nike Free or Lunar Tempo for unstructured yet supportive upper and relatively flexible natural feeling ride. For me it more than achieves and surpasses the strengths of each of these other shoes with the possible exception of lacking toe spring up front and being not quite as torsionally rigid as I would like.
Upper
Saucony Freedom ISO |
Saucony Freedom ISO |
There is no heel counter in the Freedom ISO. There is a single fairly soft strip of plastic, Saucony calls it the Support Frame to provide some rear of the foot structure. The rear heel label and Saucony logos on the sides are "black out" reflective material.
Saucony Freedom ISO |
Saucony Freedom ISO |
Peter: Fits true to size. The first thing that hit me when I stepped into the upper is how soft the materials feel. There’s a bit of stretch and step-in to the shoe feels great. I think they’ve finally figured out the whole ISO thing too. I’ve been really disappointed with the lacing and ISO on the Triumph and with the pro-lock on the Kinvara. It’s felt over-engineered, in the way and not particularly effective. That all gets solved here with the Freedom. The lacing is simple and effective, the materials pull taut and stay nicely in place around the foot. I like the tongue a lot too. It’s a bit reminiscent of the tongue of an Adidas Samba (just the little bit of rubber)-and provides just the right amount of padding. The upper completely disappears on the run.
Midsole
Saucony Freedom ISO |
There are no plastic reinforcing and stablizing elements as with adidas Boost shoes and by and large I do not miss them. The overall midsole feel is one of smooth consistency from heel to toe. One cannot just comment on the feel of the midsole without looking closely at the outsole as the Freedom is an integrated 2 layer system and the outsole plays a key role, likely more so than in most shoes.
Peter: I must confess that while I really love the feel of this shoe, I’m not sure I notice any particular “bounce” to it. It doesn’t feel firmer than the Adios boost, that’s for sure. That said, I really like the feel of the Freedom. The Everun does feel even and runs super smooth.
Outsole
Saucony Freedom ISO |
The firmness of the material seems to sit between what Saucony typically uses in the heel of current shoes and the softer forefoot areas. The result of the thickness, small chevrons, and single firmness material is a very consistent feel on the road from the outsole, from heel to toe.
So far the durablity has been excellent. The outsole to date has had excellent durablity after approximately 30 miles. Only very minor wear off of the very fine pattern in my usual heel wear area. I did note they were slippery when running on a wet wooden board walk.
Saucony Freedom ISO |
Sam: The flex of the Freedom is somewhat unusual as a result of its outsole construction. The forefoot area is not stiff it has a long flex, and is considerably more more flexible than say the Kinvara 7 but it also does not have the distinct toe spring of the adios Boost or New Balance Zante. The flex point is further back than many shoes and similar to where it is in the Ride 9, near the front of the window through the outsole to the Everun midsole. In many shoes, including the adidas Boost this mid foot area is the location for some stabilizing elements. Not here. The Freedom is not as torsionally rigid as the Adios Boost, Zante, or even Lunar Tempo.
Peter: Perhaps this is where the shoe gets its soft, quiet road feel. The outsole is flexible and soft (ish) and adds a nice layer of protection from the road. I wish it was just a hair thicker under the forefoot as I feel kind of fatigued on the balls of my feet when I take this shoe out over 10 miles. Interesting point about the toe-spring, Sam, I’ll take your word on the why. When I wear these side-by-side with a shoe like the lunar tempo I notice that I’m lingering on the forefoot of the Freedom for just a bit longer—so perhaps it is that the flex point is just a hair off. Glad you mentioned the slippery when wet factor. I noticed that when I run through a puddle these are a bit slippery, not On Cloudsurfer slippery, but a bit unstable. Haven’t run in rain, but would be a bit cautious in these.
Ride
Sam The article title says it all. Freedom ISO has a unique and fun ride. Freedom runs comfortably at slower paces and at speed. The Everun midsole, Crystal Rubber combination is particularly smooth and energetic with a distinct bounce off the road. Despite the low stack there is no noticeable vibration and shock while the cushioning is excellent. New Balance's excellent Vazee 2090 also succeeds in reducing shock vibration with its N2 TPU layer but has a firmer less bouncy ride for me. The ride is definitely different than any Boost shoe I have run (adios, Boston, Energy, and Ultra). Saucony's TPU mix in Everun, combined with the outsole, seems to have achieved more bounce and a more fluid transition than Boost shoes, maybe due to it being slightly firmer.
Now taming Freedom... The bounce, the relatively unstructured ISO upper, lack of heel counter and relying on the outsole for stability makes the Freedom a bit wilder beast than the adidas, more natural feeling, with a bit more focus on form required by the runner to tame it all.
Peter: I’m a big fan of the ride of the Freedom. Sam, I think you got a bouncier pair than I did!!! Seriously, though, I don’t notice a ton of bounce, but I really like the smooth, quiet ride. They transition nicely, pick up speed really well and are just invisible on the foot. I’ve reached for them for most of my runs lately. I think they feel lighter than they are too. These feel natural without feeling minimal.
Recommendations and Conclusions
Sam: The Freedom ISO is a superb new addition to the Saucony line, not to be confused with any other Everun shoe in their line up or for that matter any adidas Boost shoe. While not particularly light at 9 oz it is definitely a performance trainer but one without the usual shock and vibration of conventional EVA based shoes and with a distinctly energetic, bouncy ride. The simple construction in 2 layers made up of the Everun mid and top soles and Crystal Rubber outsole take some of the best of TPU midsoles (Boost) and simple two layer construction (NB Fresh Foam) and combine them in a new way with the result a unique and fantastic ride. The ISOFit upper contributes to the seamless feeling on the foot. I would only wish for a bit more toe spring and toe area stack and a bit more structure to the upper, particularly at the heel counter to make it an ideal marathon shoe for me. Otherwise this is a shoe I can't wait to run every day and one whose ride truly makes me smile. Highly recommended.
Peter: This is, by far, my favorite Saucony in the last few years. I’ll dare to say that this is way closer to what I want a Kinvara to be than the last few iterations of the Kinvara itself. Where that shoe has felt increasingly built up and over-engineered (especially pro-lock lacing), the Freedom feels natural and organic. I disagree with you Sam on the additional structure in the upper. I like the Freedom upper as it is. I do agree that a little toe-spring and a couple of mm under the forefoot would be great improvements to an already enjoyable shoe. It’s super fun to run in. My biggest beef with this shoe is the price. It’s hard to recommend a shoe that’s $50 more than the Nike Pegasus 33 or other somewhat similar shoes.
Overall I think the Freedom is a great addition to the rotation and I’d highly recommend them.
-0.05 for lack of toe spring
-0.05 for a bit more upper structure, particularly at the heel and more torsional rigidity
-0.05 for weight and price
Peter's Score 4.8 out of 5
-0.1 for lack of toe-spring/forefoot fatigue
-0.1 for price—It’s a lot of money for a daily trainer.
The Freedom weighs Men's 9 9.0 oz/255 g, Women's 8.1 oz/ 230 g. It is a premium shoe at $160. Available December 2016.
Comparisons:
Peter: I tried to figure out what shoes this reminded me of
and do a bunch of back to back runs and short bursts with a Freedom on one foot
and another shoe on the other…
Freedom vs Kinvara 7 (review here)
Sam: The Kinvara 7 is far stiffer and has a more structured, snugger upper and firmer cushioning. Two completely different rides and interesting as Kinvara was the original more natural, low drop shoe from a major brand. The Freedom is more comfortable and smoother running all over from upper to the bouncy Everun underfoot, if a bit harder to tame if tired when form gets sloppy.
Freedom vs. Zante v2 (review here)
Peter: As much as I’ve liked, and raved about the Zante, I think
the Freedom beats it at its own game. Sure, the Freedom is heavier, but it
doesn’t feel that way to me. Going back and forth between the two, the Zante
feels stiff by comparison. The Freedom disappears on my foot in comparison to
the Zante. The Zante does have a more aggressive toe spring, and feels a bit
more cushioned under the forefoot.
Sam: I have only run in Zante v1. Clear nod to the Freedom. The Freedom has a far less constrictive upper. The underfoot on the run smoothness is similar but I miss the toe spring of the Zante. The Freedom is livelier and more cushioned if a bit less responsive and snappy.
Freedom vs. New Balance Vazee 2090 (review here)
Sam The Vazee 2090 is the closest comparison to Freedom for me. Similar weights, prices, and both statement type shoes. The 2090 upper foot hold is superior to the Freedom's, the use of a vibration dampening layer effective over the firm Revlite but the ride and transition does not quite have the smoothness, bounce and leg friendly feel of the Freedom.
Freedom vs. Adidas Adios Boost 3 (review here)
The Freedom is made of much softer materials and is a more
forgiving ride. I’d race in the Adios and when going fast I enjoy the torsional
rigidity, but for a daily trainer the Freedom provides a smoother ride.
Sam: I agree with Peter's comparison, no question Freedom is more daily trainer and for me a more suitable marathon shoe than the adios, with adios a better shorter distance racer.
Freedom vs. Nike Lunar Tempo (review here)
Peter: These are the most similar ride I could find. They both run
smooth and flexible and disappear on the foot. The Lunar tempo is considerably
less expensive and seems to give me ever so slightly less forefoot fatigue.
Edge goes to the Lunar Tempo.
Sam: The Lunar Tempo are like slippers, all over. I ran my last Boston in them and had happy feet. The Freedom is slightly better fitted in the forefoot and more speed ready. Despite the additional cost and weight the Freedom is a far livelier shoe with more personality and is more versatile for faster paces.
Freedom vs. Nike Pegasus 33
These are sort of apples vs. oranges, but worth comparing. I
like the Zoom Air Pod under the forefoot of the Nike, and find that for longer
miles it’s more forgiving. The Nike certainly feels like more shoe than the
Freedom and isn’t as fun to run in, but it’s a good workhorse and is
considerably cheaper. I also noticed that I roll of the front of the Pegasus a
little quicker than the Freedom.
Saucony Blog article about the Freedom ISO here
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18 comments:
Thanks for such an in-depth review. I've been running exclusively in the women's Zante v1 for a while but as my mileage has increased due to marathon training, I think my feet need a bit more support. Do you think the Freedom is a good alternative and could support marathon training? I prefer lightweight running shoes. I used the Energy Boost last year for marathon training and found it cushiony but way too heavy in the heel.
Hi Anonymous, If you are coming from the Zante v1 you will find the Freedom softer more energetic and better cushioned. It is relatively stiff towards the front, see review details, so we saw some forefoot pain on longer runs likely due to this.The upper is excellent although relatively unstructured compared to Zante so foot support is a bit less, is more "natural" and puts a priority on good form. I used the Energy Boost for several years and ran multiple marathons in them. The new Boston 6 not quite the cushion of the Energy is a fabulous lighter trainer racer you might also consider. The upcoming Brooks Launch 4 or Pegasus 33 might also fit the bill. If you want something similar to Zante with a touch more cushion the Salming Distance D4 might also be considered. Reviews for all of the above, except Pegasus (coming soon) at the link here
http://www.roadtrailrun.com/p/blog-page.html
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Sam, thank you so much for responding so quickly and for the recommendations. Cheers!
Any suggestions when compared to the dynaflytes?
Great review! How would the Freedom ISO's compare to the Zealot's? I liked the original Zealots a bit more than the 2's...as well as the original Triumph ISO's. It seems like Saucony has made everything more narrow in the forefoot and I've had to do the lace lock technique with the newer versions of their shoes...which cause some discomfort. I am looking for a 4mm drop shoe that is lightweight yet cushioned...I am an injury prone runner, but typically feel most comfortable in neutral shoes. Any insight is appreciated!
Hi Keep_Moving09, Thanks for reading RoadTrailRun! I would say no real comparison between the 2 except both have ISO and even there the ISO in Freedom is far more minimal and as one with the upper. The wrap at midfoot is excellent but... there is also no real heel counter and no overlays at mid foot so a much more "natural" seamless fit and a less supportive overall fit. The ride is very different I found Zealot 1 and to a lesser extent 2 firm especially in the heel. Freedom is considerably softer with that Everun TPU bounce. For me as a heel striker it almost feels lower than its 4mm drop. What kind of injuries have you had? I think the Freedom is most suitable for someone with efficient form and likely no big issues in the feet or ankles. Compared to Triumph ISO and Zealot 1 or 2 a much livelier funner ride in the Freedom but one that requires some taming. Hope this helps. Sam, Editor
Thanks for your reply! In regards to injuries, I have dealt with knee issues in the past and have most recently been recovering from hip/pelvic/groin pain. I TYPICALLY do not have lower or foot issues, (other than blisters, etc.)...do you have any recommendations of shoes I might want to try instead of the Freedoms? I do like a bit of a lower drop as I typically walk/jog more mid to forefoot. I just wish I could find something light, yet cushioned..thanks!
Hi, Just wondering if the saucony freedom is a good supplementary shoe to run in with the saucony triumph iso 3. I am a heel striker and use to a 10mm or 8 mm drop would the 4mm drop be to much? Is it okay for heel strikers? Is it a softer or firmer shoe to run in than the triumph and just as comfortable? What are the main difference between the two shoes. Thanks in advance.
Hi Anonymous, Thanks for inquiring. It could be a good supplementary shoe to the Triumph IS0 3 but... the 4mm drop of the Freedom runs even lower for me as also a heel striker. It is a super fun shoe to run but soft and bouncy. You might also look at the upcoming Saucony Zealot 3 see my first impressions here. More rubber at the heel less bottoming out. And light. http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/05/saucony-zealot-iso-3-first-run.html If you want to have a bit more drop and a lively shoe the Saucony Ride 10 is a great choice as well. Closer to the Triumph overall but a much more dynamic trainer. Review here http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/03/saucony-ride-10-review-what-daily.html
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Hi Sam, thanks for the reply and the options. Its mentioned that the saucony freedom bottoms out, what do you mean? Is that common occurance or a problem. Also its mentioned in review forefoot pain after 8 miles? Why is that - not enough cushioning or too firm etc? Does it have enough heel support, thanks again.
Hi Anonymous, Given the Everun is quite soft and the heel toe drop quite low and the outsole rubber while fine relatively soft if you are a heel striker, as I am, you will notice some bottoming out, not in the sense of lack of cushion but heel feel low. The lack of a real heel counter contributes to the heel being a bit low and hard to tame if a heel striker. The forefoot pain for me only occurred a bit during longer runs. Again because of the relatively soft cushion and long flexing outsole some may get tired feet up front. Hope this helps!
Sam, Editor
Sorry for the delay in responding. I did try them briefly in the shop and they seem to fit well and very comfortable. I was very tempted but they were very expensive, so will think about it. Hopefully the price will drop.
I wear insoles, and wondering whether that will help with the drop. The insoles I use are about 4-5 mm higher at the heel than the front, would that help as I am use to a 8-10mm drop?
Did you find the freedoms softer than the saucony triumph iso 3's to run in and as cushioned? I did compare them with the Nike vomero 12's and they seemed more like the triumphs in weight and bulk and I think the triumphs would be more responsive than the Nikes? (Your thoughts) Thanks Sam for your input
Thanks for all of your comprehensive reviews, this is awesome.
I'm returning to running after a brief hiatus - have been doing a lot of gym work and cross training, so I'm in pretty decent shape but only starting to work my way back into running shape.
Anyways, I am looking for something pretty versatile, that I can use both for speedwork and for runs up to (potentially) half-marathon distance, although day-to-day will probably be combination of speed work and distance of up to 5 miles.
Right now I'm looking at the Saucony Freedom ISO, NB Zante v3, and the Altra Escalante. Recommendations on which of these would best fit what I'm looking to do? Thanks in advance for taking the time to share!
HI John, Thanks for reading and writing! What have you liked before, and not liked? About what pace do you plan to run faster workouts and races? Of the three you mention my pick would be the Escalante and its stable versatile and very lively ride. The Zante has always been to firm for me, the Freedom is super fun to run but a bit thin in the forefoot and for me somewhat unstable in the heel. Another to consider the upcoming Saucony Zealot ISO 3. Our first impressions article here http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/05/saucony-zealot-iso-3-first-run.html full review later this week. Lively, soft, and light at 8.6 it is more forgiving than the others you mention and would be a good/better half shoe.
Sam. Editor
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Thanks for your prompt reply Sam! I've been all over the map with shoes - early on when I first started running marathons I had Asics 2100 series and Brooks Adrenaline, and they were great but I'm looking for something more neutral and more on the minimalist side. Just more support than I needed with those, and also heavier than what I am looking for with this shoe. Right now all of my sprint work is coming on a pair of Cross trainers from Reebok, the Nano series, which are pretty light and also zero drop but I'd like something more dedicated to running as I'll be doing more run workouts. In terms of pace for faster workouts I'm looking to run anything between 6:00/mile for interval training and probably aiming for a 7:00/mile pace for distance up to 10k. The half marathon stuff is likely to come down the road, so may not even need that in this shoe. With all of that, sounds like you'd recommend the Escalante? I've been eyeing the Freedom - what do you mean by too thin in the forefoot? Not enough cushion? Thanks again for all of your insights!
Hi John,
Here is our Escalante review http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/02/in-depth-altra-running-escalante.html. The Freedom would be fine for up to half but is fairly stiff flexing up front, has the soft Everun and can fatigue more there with more miles. The Escalante has 4mm or so more forefoot stack and is a bit firmer more stable up front and at the heel. Another to look at the Hoka Hupana which was my 2016 shoe of the year. Same class of shoe bouncy but better tamed than Freedom while a bit less stable than Escalante. http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2016/12/first-run-impressions-review-hoka-one.html
You really can't go wrong with any of them although for pure speed I think the Escalante may be the best of the 3 at this point for your paces and needs. This said it is zero drop, so caution in transitioning but it seems you are used to zero drop from the Reebok
Thanks for the advice Sam! Went with the Escalante and love them.
-John
After 20 miles on them i feel numbness on both balls of the feet!Not enough upper support of the foot even though the upper is the most comfortable i've ever tried!!!Good shoe only for walking.I prefer my supernova glide 8!!
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