tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post8869360918103158306..comments2024-03-18T14:53:29.709-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: S/Lab Ultra 3 Multi Tester Review: Outsole, Midsole, and Upper Working in Perfect All Terrain UnisonSam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-43240328241564228792021-04-24T04:21:43.810-06:002021-04-24T04:21:43.810-06:00I have previously been unable to run in Salomon sh...I have previously been unable to run in Salomon shoes because of their narrow construction, but the Ultra 3 actually works for me with it's more spacious toe box. More of this please Salomon!<br /><br />I find the upper is not that breathable, my feet get hot and sweaty inside and so there is the potential for blisters developing.<br />AshRollshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04819498050427950658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-13437075833858420932021-03-29T04:44:56.401-06:002021-03-29T04:44:56.401-06:00Hi, would you recommend this shoes to somebody, wh...Hi, would you recommend this shoes to somebody, who has wide feet and wears brands that usually make wider shoes like Asics or Scarpa? Thanks!Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-63233095094776385032020-10-08T01:00:28.516-06:002020-10-08T01:00:28.516-06:00Thank you for answer. I went with xodus 10. Great ...Thank you for answer. I went with xodus 10. Great shoes!Nfohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11101027602602832514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-64923189628568283432020-10-01T13:12:22.732-06:002020-10-01T13:12:22.732-06:00Nfo - I would not lump these into the same categor...Nfo - I would not lump these into the same category, other than they are both trail shoes and both made by Salomon. S/Lab Ultra 3 is over an ounce lighter, has a lower stack, has a slightly wider platform, not as aggressive lugs. Fit on both is true to size and accommodating, though fit is very secure for both. Speedcross 5 is perhaps more appropriate for slower, more casual use, particularly in loose terrain or snow, while the Ultra 3 better for faster running and stability in technical terrain (Speedcross 5 has a blocky heel and is very tippy in technical terrain).Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-49145704031868498102020-10-01T06:37:45.921-06:002020-10-01T06:37:45.921-06:00Coul you plaease compare them with speedcross 5? A...Coul you plaease compare them with speedcross 5? Also in sizing! Much obliged.Nfohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11101027602602832514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-69640748081686846242020-09-05T00:17:37.333-06:002020-09-05T00:17:37.333-06:00From my experience I notice that with a higher dro...From my experience I notice that with a higher drop I tend to heelstrike more. I began with Altra then moved on to 4mm Salomon slab and sense pro which I feel have an excellent drop and overall feel. For road and light trails the 6mm drop Sonic feel chunkier in the heel although they're pretty different shoes to begin with. <br /><br />But overall I just want to stay as close as possible to a natural foot shape and strike and want to continue on this path of increasing drop.Xaviernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-78054535633372943482020-09-04T14:24:41.772-06:002020-09-04T14:24:41.772-06:00Hey guys,
Could you please give a comparison to t...Hey guys,<br /><br />Could you please give a comparison to the Speedgoat family (EVO and 4)? 1000 thanks!Nilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06694683478873787648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-83560914486740701192020-09-04T06:59:01.607-06:002020-09-04T06:59:01.607-06:00Thanks Xavier, that is a great price! Just curiou...Thanks Xavier, that is a great price! Just curious, what's the issue with 8mm drop? I guess the same as why I am not fond of 0 drop, but will say I hardly even notice the drop with this shoe. That said, given the rocky, technical trails that I frequent, I am rarely aware of or affected by amount of drop unless 0 or 12.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-73180149852941862412020-09-03T23:17:33.098-06:002020-09-03T23:17:33.098-06:00Price drop to $135 right now if anyone is interest...Price drop to $135 right now if anyone is interested. The damn 8mm drop will put me away once again though. <br /><br />Is a comparison to the Sonic ra (pro 2) logical in any way? Xaviernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-212074453576740822020-09-01T15:09:43.203-06:002020-09-01T15:09:43.203-06:00Marcel and Andy, thanks for the commentary. Indeed...Marcel and Andy, thanks for the commentary. Indeed we did not mention the Energy Save PU insert in the forefoot in our review of the Ultra 3 and only got a "It was retained" in our Ultra 2 review. Sam gave a thorough explanation in our review of the 1st version here:<br /><br />https://www.roadtrailrun.com/2018/04/salomon-slab-ultra-full-review-race.html<br /><br />I guess since this is the 3rd version, I have come to take it for granted and was more focused on what has changed along with performance. Thanks for pointing out the oversight however, I will see if Sam can update this review with his previous description.<br /><br />Thanks again for reading!<br /><br />Jeff.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-36446517512810517442020-09-01T15:05:22.939-06:002020-09-01T15:05:22.939-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-71941790570149650182020-09-01T09:35:12.670-06:002020-09-01T09:35:12.670-06:00@Marcel: interesting that the upper didn't wor...@Marcel: interesting that the upper didn't work for many on the Sense Ultra, its been perfect for me - first pair have 850 miles on them and are fully intact and thats with several ultras thrown in and plenty of mountain miles. Shame that this Ultra 3 has the gaiter really - if they were to issue this shoe without it would be pretty damn great!Andynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-43671152561483440792020-09-01T08:11:15.649-06:002020-09-01T08:11:15.649-06:00@Andy: you totally nailed it! i tried so hard to l...@Andy: you totally nailed it! i tried so hard to love this long awaited shoe but the presure on the tendons (you described it much better than in did in my comment before) just from walking around was much too painful (while i still think that not so much the gaitor itself was the problem for me personally but the fact that the material changes right on the middle of my ankle). as a result, i switched to the Sense Ride 3 for longer runs on easy trails, as the midsole of my beloved Sense Ultra does not work so well for me on longer trails like in the beginning. if Salomon decides to fulfil your wish, i will match your order;-) but i am afraid it will be continue to be a wish as the told me they had to many complains about problems with the upper and indeed the upper was destroyed at the little toe very fast but i did not care much for easy trails. the new gaitor sucks, everything else is right perfect to me.Marcelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04862225190267602959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-4097093747761992072020-09-01T07:13:32.864-06:002020-09-01T07:13:32.864-06:00Great review. I have a few extra comments that it...Great review. I have a few extra comments that it might be worth sharing after 80 miles in the shoes.<br /><br />- The gaiter: its too tight for my foot. I have a very high instep and it causes too much pressure on extensor tendons which causes some pain. If I was to run too much in these it would result in several weeks of pain. I have cut the gaiter (and sealed the cut with heat) to make a more traditional type tongue and they are now fine.<br />- The midsole: no-one mentioned there is a harder section of foam on the medial side?! For me as a mild pronator this is a key part of the shoe and means that its super stable. The heel counter isn't firm, but its more than made up for by this. I find it very surprising this wasn't mentioned in the review as it contributes so much to the feel of the midsole. The shoe strangely also feels closer to the ground to me compared with previous generation, even if it has more foam.<br />- Fit: pretty generous fit for my feet, kind of like the Sense Pro 4, decent amount of toe box room.<br />- Comparisons: its STILL not as good as the original S-Lab Sense Ultra which is the best shoe Salomon ever made IMO. My two pairs of the originals have 850 and 250 miles on them and are both still really rocking (Salomon, PLEASE RE-ISSUE THAT SHOE, I'm lining up for 10 pairs!). In contrast with Adam, I found those perfectly cushioned enough for ultras, some over 10 hours. The last couple of generations of the S-Lab Ultra (both red versions with wings) were terrible shoes and blew within a couple of hundred miles for me around the forefoot. These seem like the upper will be durable.<br /><br />Decent shoes, rubbish gaiter, good volume, great midsole, but not as good as the original Salomon S-Lab Sense Ultra.Andynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-4331304682638784132020-08-31T13:51:19.217-06:002020-08-31T13:51:19.217-06:00Do you find the toe box of the Ultra 3 at least a ...Do you find the toe box of the Ultra 3 at least a little more forgiving than some in this SLab line?Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844368418925972257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-85712007000190954602020-08-31T13:49:45.293-06:002020-08-31T13:49:45.293-06:00Awesome, thanks! Awesome, thanks! Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844368418925972257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-3803878677069336762020-08-31T07:46:03.714-06:002020-08-31T07:46:03.714-06:00Will, I hardly notice the 8mm drop, but 4-8mm is k...Will, I hardly notice the 8mm drop, but 4-8mm is kind of my sweet spot. More than 8 I am usually aware, less than 4 and especially 0, I can feel a bit off, but from reviewing so many different shoes, I have become pretty flexible with different types of shoes and drops.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-9999132032612141532020-08-30T21:58:28.209-06:002020-08-30T21:58:28.209-06:00Kiwirevo - The Ultra 3 is lighter, more responsive...Kiwirevo - The Ultra 3 is lighter, more responsive, has more cushioning, though the cushioning is more firm and not quite as soft as the Ultra Pro. The upper of the Ultra Pro is a bit more relaxed and fit more generous, though comes at a cost with not as good of foothold.<br />See more: <a href="https://couponcode2019.com/stores/dicks-sporting-goods/" rel="nofollow">Dicks Sporting Goods</a><br />Lindanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-62179787962013923752020-08-30T17:01:24.689-06:002020-08-30T17:01:24.689-06:00Does the 8mm drop ride line it, if that makes sens...Does the 8mm drop ride line it, if that makes sense? I used to just do Altra but I’ve found 4-5 mm work and some of those feel like little if at all. As a mid- and forefoot guy would the 8mm drop possibly dull my enjoyment with this sort of shoe or does it not seem so present?Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844368418925972257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-7666965304208854622020-08-30T16:58:59.079-06:002020-08-30T16:58:59.079-06:00Thanks!Thanks!Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844368418925972257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-7922729676952450622020-08-29T11:31:40.446-06:002020-08-29T11:31:40.446-06:00can't agree with your review much as far as ri...can't agree with your review much as far as ride, upper and so on is concerned. while i tried so hard to convince myself of the shoe, i had to return it because it hurts my skin at the ankle: this is because the upper chances from the minimal uppter to the gaitor just at the middle of my ancle but this is personal bad luck i guess:-(Marcelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04862225190267602959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-53688691319553140212020-08-29T10:18:33.441-06:002020-08-29T10:18:33.441-06:00Nils, the heel counter on the Ultra 3 is thinner a...Nils, the heel counter on the Ultra 3 is thinner and more flexible, but higher, so that added height may add a little support. I personally have found the heel counter to be very secure and supportive. As far as your trail marathon, I guess it is hard for me to recommend given my lack of knowledge of the course and also preferences vary. If you are good with 0 drop over distance and not too rocky or rooty underfoot, you might be fine with the G270, though either way I would prefer the Sense Pro 4 of the two. Of the 3, I would for sure pick the Ultra 3 though since I own them all. Would I invest in a pair just for that? Perhaps.<br /><br />Boris, somewhere in the middle I guess. The Ultra 3 is more responsive than both, lighter and an overall more agile, high performance shoe, where the SR 2 and especially the 3 are more for casual running.<br /><br />Mark P, I have not had any trouble personally with XA Elevate toe fit, nor with Ultra 3, though Ultra 3 may have a touch more room. Also, don't forget to add the Brooks Catamount to your list. Good luck!Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-67032881057852500452020-08-29T07:41:19.771-06:002020-08-29T07:41:19.771-06:00I'd finally cut my choices for a trail maratho...I'd finally cut my choices for a trail marathon and longer off road training runs down to the Torrent 2 and Xodus 10 and now this gets thrown into the mix to add to my indecision! My only experience with Salomon so far was a pair of XA a few years ago that felt a touch tight in the toe, probably not helped by hard toe. These look like a good option though.MarkPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-73452458230112729662020-08-29T06:51:29.732-06:002020-08-29T06:51:29.732-06:00Will
Spec is 28/20, 8mm drop. Typo corrected.
Sam,...Will<br />Spec is 28/20, 8mm drop. Typo corrected.<br />Sam, EditorSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-46359250906595929362020-08-29T05:54:58.394-06:002020-08-29T05:54:58.394-06:00Is it an 8 or 6mm drop? The specs say 6 but also s...Is it an 8 or 6mm drop? The specs say 6 but also say 28/20 heel/forefootWillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844368418925972257noreply@blogger.com