tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post7814428536993314068..comments2024-03-28T01:00:21.447-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Hoka One One Napali Review: Tuned Up, Dialed In Clifton 3 at a Lighter Weight and Price than Clifton 4Sam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-63653930546587554542019-01-15T09:52:57.162-07:002019-01-15T09:52:57.162-07:00Hey Dave,
Do guys see Hoka bringing an updated N...Hey Dave, <br /><br />Do guys see Hoka bringing an updated Napali out soon? I see this model on sale now. But, with it being kinda a one-off shoe (not really a roadmap for this model), wasn't sure if we could expect another iteration. Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401833955498932483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-91959451576292469192018-10-14T10:24:27.106-06:002018-10-14T10:24:27.106-06:00Napali runs true to size. However, Torrent is mad...Napali runs true to size. However, Torrent is made for trail racing and I'd suggest going up a half size for cruising down the downhills.Dave Ameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254411302555003918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-48044725195936521372018-10-14T10:04:49.928-06:002018-10-14T10:04:49.928-06:00How is the Napali sizing compared to the Torrent?How is the Napali sizing compared to the Torrent?Σπύροςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04458499979955678552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-46204051541393283632018-03-25T16:14:09.126-06:002018-03-25T16:14:09.126-06:00Out of all the Hokas you've tried, which one i...Out of all the Hokas you've tried, which one is your favorite so far?demianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14748017372713240235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-411185085653246422018-02-12T22:44:31.740-07:002018-02-12T22:44:31.740-07:00Hi Wes,
While it may look like the Clifton 3 from...Hi Wes,<br /><br />While it may look like the Clifton 3 from the midsole and outsole standpoint, the durometer has been tuned up a bit to provide a firmer and more responsive ride from what I am told.<br /><br />In my honest opinion, maximalism needs to have some snap back to it, otherwise you are running on a marshmallow (like early Hoka's) which basically just beat the crap out of my legs. You used to spend far too much time on the ground, causing all the force and impact to shoot into your calves and knees. But when a max cush shoe provides more response upon footfall and encourages a quicker heel to toe transition rate, your gait cycle is far smoother and your legs feel far fresher. <br /><br />This is why the Napali worked well for me. Just my thoughts.<br /><br />Dave (shoe reviewer)<br />Dave Ameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254411302555003918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-59817047929029796112018-02-12T22:38:16.877-07:002018-02-12T22:38:16.877-07:00Hi Kip,
The Width and Volume of the Napali compar...Hi Kip,<br /><br />The Width and Volume of the Napali compared to the Ride 7....Note this is based on my narrow foot and my testing.<br /><br />With the sockliner in the Ride 7, the Napali offers me much more wiggle room. However, I do not have an issue with the sockliner in the Ride 7 because my foot is narrow. But for the runner with an average to wider foot will notice they have a more pleasant feel in the Napali compared to the Ride 7 with the sockliner in.<br /><br />With the sockliner out in the Ride 7, they feel about the same to me. Just comfortable and it works. <br /><br />With the way the Ride 7 has been performing for me lately, I find myself reaching for the Napali less and less, unless I want a really slow recovery miles day.<br /><br />I'd personally just stock up on the Ride 7, Kip!<br /><br />DaveDave Ameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254411302555003918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-8782183821518848102018-02-12T07:26:23.285-07:002018-02-12T07:26:23.285-07:00How is the width/volume on this compared to...
Sk...How is the width/volume on this compared to...<br /><br />Skechers Gorun Ride 7 with sock liner out?<br /><br />Skechers Gorun Ride 7 with sock liner in?<br /><br />Hoping this shoe will work in my rotation, just not sure on the width. I am very comfy in the Ride 7 sock liner out, but with sock liner in it's pretty snug, but has loosened up a bit for me over time to where it definitely is workable. Thanks.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02104301268069138740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-91950302138993822772018-02-09T15:16:14.482-07:002018-02-09T15:16:14.482-07:00Just got this shoe in blue. I like the looks. Size...Just got this shoe in blue. I like the looks. Size 13, justs fits, toe maybe 1/4 inch from end of shoe, a very lightly snug fit. The heel area is softer than the front area. I have regular arches, I don't feel enough support in that area, but it is sort of acceptable. People with flat feet tell me they like this shoe. The way it feels reminds me of the Brook's Caldera trail shoe. My feet feel cool in this shoe, in the GoRunRide7, my feet sweat a little bit. I prefer the Vanquish 3 shoe compared to the Napali. I'll keep these shoes, but I am not going to purchase another pair. I also have the Skechers GoRunRide7, and the Forza3 which I prefer more. The GoRunRide7 I had to get a size 14 to fit me, the Forza3 is a size 13, which fits fine.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12944548913662468856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-28203073837282646532018-02-05T13:08:28.226-07:002018-02-05T13:08:28.226-07:00Dave, thanks for your review, very insightful. I a...Dave, thanks for your review, very insightful. I am encouraged to see that you include Skechers in your review (no, I am not doing a Skechers ad lol). I find their full line from the GoRun, Ride and GoRun Unltra to be very good for my gait and level of running but so few reviewers -- and runners -- consider them as serious running shoes yet. I was a Clifton 3 lover but not the 4 so much so I am looking into these Napali's as an option for my rotation.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07737194675586819794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-87159246566977476222018-02-04T11:26:14.590-07:002018-02-04T11:26:14.590-07:00I prefer the Air mesh than the less breathabe knit...I prefer the Air mesh than the less breathabe knit upper. Toebox looks narrow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-87055834357901974562018-02-04T08:10:42.590-07:002018-02-04T08:10:42.590-07:00Bit confused by the review; all the pre-release bl...Bit confused by the review; all the pre-release blurb said this was a just a Clifton 3 with new upper so the outsole and midsole should be identical to the ‘3’ not firmer like the ‘4’?Wes Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04438941659328895668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-88836611957595273712018-02-02T15:01:03.294-07:002018-02-02T15:01:03.294-07:00I ran in clifton 3s all last year. I quite enjoyed...I ran in clifton 3s all last year. I quite enjoyed my miles in them and went to try the 4s when they appeared. I ran four laps and was unhappy with my mid strike experience. The 4 wasn’t built for my gait and slightly wider feet. I tried then brooks ghost and scoffed at the lack of cushion support I had become familiar with in hoka. I waited from November to January 8 for this Napali to come out. I strapped them on and haven’t looked back. When these are done in 6 months I am getting another pair. They are perfect for the layman who isn’t trying to be an athlete but trying to stave off health risks by running every day. I love these shoes. These shoes deliver. -Kevin in NYCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-23373125709309824032018-02-02T14:22:00.901-07:002018-02-02T14:22:00.901-07:00Lightning,
Glad to hear the EVA is going well for...Lightning,<br /><br />Glad to hear the EVA is going well for you. Hoka does a good job of listening to runner feedback, something some of the run brands today, have forgotten to continue to do.<br /><br />As a non-Hoka guy, I was interested to test this shoe and am really digging it!!<br /><br />Hope your training is going well.<br /><br />Dave (shoe reviewer)Dave Ameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254411302555003918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-1601416114374927612018-02-02T14:19:56.888-07:002018-02-02T14:19:56.888-07:00Hi Xavier,
Thank you for your input. My point ab...Hi Xavier,<br /><br />Thank you for your input. My point about "you get what you pay for" was about this shoe. There are a bunch of solid $100-110 price point running shoes on the market right now who have outstanding uppers. Hoka could have taken an already solid shoe and made it just a tad better...they have the resources to do so.<br /><br />Dave<br />Dave Ameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254411302555003918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-86452066011610262322018-02-02T10:25:09.357-07:002018-02-02T10:25:09.357-07:00Hi Anonymous,
Agree with Dave. A well cushioned ov...Hi Anonymous,<br />Agree with Dave. A well cushioned overly soft and unstable shoe can beat up your legs. Excessive muscle contractions compensating. Example for me Clifton 1-3 but not 4 mainly due to change in heel landing geometry and a touch firmer. I am a heel striker and more mid strikers likely not to have as many issues. <br />Sam, EditorSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-14075028972856330412018-02-02T09:49:30.203-07:002018-02-02T09:49:30.203-07:00Don't know how a well cushioned shoe could &qu...Don't know how a well cushioned shoe could "beat my legs up."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-88271120310429596712018-02-01T12:15:55.555-07:002018-02-01T12:15:55.555-07:00$100 should never be a way out for shoe companies ...$100 should never be a way out for shoe companies to provide sub par products, and reviews like this give them an excuse to do so by saying "you get what you pay for". Running should be a minimalist sport that doesn't require expensive gear, and the less gear the better, let's not forget that. <br /><br />We're now seeing a lot of shoes lines ranging from $130 to $180 when the difference isn't black and white from a $100 product, and by purchasing them we are effectively telling the companies that this completely acceptable.Xaviernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-47899725245525339482018-02-01T08:43:28.107-07:002018-02-01T08:43:28.107-07:00Looking forward to trying this as someone whose fa...Looking forward to trying this as someone whose favorite shoes are the Challenger ATR (had 4 pairs) and the Clifton that I'm currentlyracking up miles in. I've only had the first versions because I like the lightweight, simple uppers, and didn't like the weight gain on the subsequent versions. The Air Mesh looks good to me. The Napali looks like a return to the roots in a good way, with a $30 savings bonus. <br /><br />The exposed EVA isn't an issue. I have 1,050 miles in my Cliftons currently and still going, and the EVA is all there. The rubber looks about new too, though just starting to peel a bit (a common complaint with the Challenger when used on rocky ground).<br /><br />Lightningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-91334395902399793602018-02-01T07:38:05.535-07:002018-02-01T07:38:05.535-07:00Sounds like this shoe is somewhat different than t...Sounds like this shoe is somewhat different than the Clifton 3. I was led to believe that it was the same as the 3 with a little different upper. Does it ride as firm as the Clifton 4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com