tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post6162974799551177933..comments2024-03-28T01:00:21.447-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Altra Torin 4 and Torin 4 Plush Multi Tester Review: Approachable Zero Drop in Two Distinct FlavorsSam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-34258989685638128422020-07-09T14:56:00.648-06:002020-07-09T14:56:00.648-06:00Thanks so much Michael for that excellent informat...Thanks so much Michael for that excellent information!Jerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15803684186990339692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-17261348776782941672020-07-09T13:28:44.062-06:002020-07-09T13:28:44.062-06:00Hey Jerry, my apologies - I'm now "follow...Hey Jerry, my apologies - I'm now "following" these comments so I won't miss them in the future.<br /><br />It's been a while since I've worn either, but I think even the Plush-less Torin 4 is softer underfoot than the Fly-Lyte 3. The Fly-Lyte 3 is a more aggressive and fast-feeling platform, to be sure - it's not "hard" but certainly firmer than the Torin 4. Hardest for me to remember support, but the Altra upper is pretty competent in maintaining balance overall, whereas the Topo does feel slightly more minimal/lower to the ground/racer-esque overall. Between the two I do prefer the Fly-Lyte 3, as it's just a more useful and fun shoe for me.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03297325506624687004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-2145188816065507812020-07-09T07:09:19.533-06:002020-07-09T07:09:19.533-06:00If Michael is not available I would greatly apprec...If Michael is not available I would greatly appreciate if someone else would give their opinion on how the Altra Torin 4 and Topo Fli-Lyte 3 compare as far as cushioning, support and responsiveness. Thanks for all your great reviews!Jerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15803684186990339692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-2020728694007892402020-07-05T16:10:15.145-06:002020-07-05T16:10:15.145-06:00Michael, how would you compare the cushioning, res...Michael, how would you compare the cushioning, responsiveness and the support of the Torin 4 (not plush) and Topo Fli-Lyte 3? I really enjoyed your reviews!Jerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15803684186990339692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-90976749130306886662020-07-05T14:44:46.037-06:002020-07-05T14:44:46.037-06:00Michael, how would you compare the cushioning, res...Michael, how would you compare the cushioning, responsiveness and the support of the Torin 4 (not plush) and Topo Fli-Lyte 3? I really enjoyed your reviews!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-52987595045622534602019-12-29T09:03:28.467-07:002019-12-29T09:03:28.467-07:00Hi Josie,
Thanks for commenting about your experie...Hi Josie,<br />Thanks for commenting about your experience. Altra while "Foot Shaped" has different fits for sure depending on models. We'd welcome a wider foot tester reviewer as well as folks who have more severe pronation. If you are in the US, enjoy testing and writing under deadline please drop us a line at the Blogger Contact on the right side of each page down a ways. <br />Sam, EditorSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-11095646890651594072019-12-29T08:23:42.556-07:002019-12-29T08:23:42.556-07:00I've tried both and the Plush is not wide enou...I've tried both and the Plush is not wide enough for wider feet (a women's D is usually perfect for me but I can wear a B in shoes like New Balance and Brooks). Unfortunately that knit upper narrows right at the point where feet are the widest (on me anyway!). Would be great if you had a true wide shoe reviewer on the blog as I so love your comments and reviews but sometimes the fit for me is completely different. I've seen one or two female reviewers that indicate they have wide feet but them most often end up in a men's version saying it fits great. That's not helpful for me as a women's 6.5 size as I cannot wear a men's shoe no matter how much I'd want too! I miss the days of the old Altra's (I PR'd a 5K by 2 MINUTES a mile in the Intuition 1.5!). <br /><br />I have 2 pairs of the Torin 4 which is a much more forgiving shoe for my wider feet - even with the very snug midfoot - as the mesh is loads above the knit in the upper as far as comfort and fit. For regular or narrow feet I suspect the Plush is really great. However, after about 100 miles in each pair the Torin 4's the shoes developed a terrible squeaking that I cannot get rid of. It is so LOUD that people have come up to me in races and asked if that is my shoes squeaking! Came here to read the review and see if anyone had an issue with squeaking with a little more mileage on the shoes? <br /><br />Josiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05168802486513847765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-56310939463980414072019-10-17T23:51:32.719-06:002019-10-17T23:51:32.719-06:00Thanks - I've got a couple of thin Ortholites ...Thanks - I've got a couple of thin Ortholites I could use but I wasn't sure if that would be enough to duplicate the Plush's stroebel layer. The heel insert is a good idea - I could cut an old thick cushioned insole in two and use the back. 70's Teenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18117423200938953666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-42638693620711064342019-10-17T07:01:35.185-06:002019-10-17T07:01:35.185-06:00Hi 70's Teen,
Worth trying but my instinct mig...Hi 70's Teen,<br />Worth trying but my instinct might be that the 2nd insert be a flatter thinner one. Worried that 2 full inserts might make them mushy. you might also try a couple inches of flatter denser insert at the heel. I often to that with Altra to get some "training heels" a bit more drop<br />Sam, Editor <br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run! See our page with links 100’s of in depth shoe and gear reviews <a href="http://www.roadtrailrun.com/p/blog-page.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. You can also follow RoadTrailRun on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews. <br />Shopping through links on articles help support RoadTrail Run and is much appreciated!Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-88523835007864060572019-10-16T14:22:07.419-06:002019-10-16T14:22:07.419-06:00Could one effectively combine the best of both sho...Could one effectively combine the best of both shoes by adding a second ortholite insert to the 4, thus keeping weight down and flexibility up, while adding 3 - 5 mm of cushion?70's Teenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18117423200938953666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-19024969382616866772019-08-05T08:48:50.269-06:002019-08-05T08:48:50.269-06:00Great detailed review guys. With the plush, can y...Great detailed review guys. With the plush, can you push the pace ocassionally<br />despite the extra weight?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-86990161118193688272019-07-28T13:55:31.164-06:002019-07-28T13:55:31.164-06:00Hi I. Skoinas,
Yes we will! Just received a pair ...Hi I. Skoinas, <br />Yes we will! Just received a pair but don't think our tester has run the Torin 4 as of yet.<br />Sam, Editor<br />Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-47037442413891119202019-07-28T13:38:53.940-06:002019-07-28T13:38:53.940-06:00Sam, will you guys be reviewing the Duo 1.5? Curio...Sam, will you guys be reviewing the Duo 1.5? Curious how it compares to the Torin 4. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-2646961022693904362019-06-23T11:46:06.372-06:002019-06-23T11:46:06.372-06:00Thank you for this complete review (as usual!). Ho...Thank you for this complete review (as usual!). How would you compare the regular Torin 4 to the Saucony Zealot (ISO 2 and ISO 3)? I am a mid-to forefoot striker and I am looking for a successor to this beloved and late shoe, which could do the job for road and soft trail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-67461194205885015852019-06-20T06:22:45.770-06:002019-06-20T06:22:45.770-06:00Hey @Andreaxxx - I don't have the King MT 2 on...Hey @Andreaxxx - I don't have the King MT 2 on-hand, but the information (and photos) make it look as if it might have the improved lacing/lockdown system. Good news for those of us who can use it. The Torin is certainly an improvement in that category - I think it'll work well for you!Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03297325506624687004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-44362250981427053642019-06-18T01:24:32.178-06:002019-06-18T01:24:32.178-06:00Currently training in Torin 3.5 plush and Escalant...Currently training in Torin 3.5 plush and Escalante 1.5. I'm looking forward to upgrade the Torin for the better midfoot lock. I wonder if the upcoming King MT 2.0 will have a better lockdown too. I've experienced that after 10km or so the laces tend to get looser.Andreaxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902604120943673790noreply@blogger.com