tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post6051966552668899748..comments2024-03-28T21:52:44.835-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Outdoor Retailer Summer 14: Altra Running-Superior 2.0, Instinct 3.0, Provision 2.0Sam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-4586717406363909692016-03-04T08:45:24.509-07:002016-03-04T08:45:24.509-07:00Thanks for the response, Sam!
I ordered the Ins...Thanks for the response, Sam! <br /><br />I ordered the Instinct 3. The Impulse is definitely one to watch, but that seems more for stability. I'm not sure how the Virrata rated as a stability shoe, but it definitely had more padding than the Bare Access.<br /><br />The Bare Access have broken in very well after a rough first week with them, but that is simply too long for me to wait to be breaking in a new set of shoes. The Virratas were always fine out of the box. And while my legs have gotten used to the Merrell's, the longest I've gone is 13.5 miles, and my left foot pain that I experienced when using them on my first run (6 miler) came roaring back toward the end. <br /><br />Will definitely keep you posted how I do with the Instinct 3's once I get them!Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16477280386233433416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-26941653330163904042016-03-04T05:51:45.301-07:002016-03-04T05:51:45.301-07:00Frank, I have not run the Bare Access or Virrata, ...Frank, I have not run the Bare Access or Virrata, The Instinct and my favorite of 2015 the Impulse would give you a more cushioned zero drop ride. http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2015/10/altra-running-impulse-review-pleasant.html The One 2.5 might also be an alternative http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2015/11/review-altra-running-one-25-easy-rider.html. Finally the Superior while a trail shoe might be closest to the Bare Access. The rock plate is easily removable. Thanks for reading! you can also follow Road Trail Run on Facebook here https://www.facebook.com/SamsRunning/Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-25919232913303280702016-03-01T12:06:42.754-07:002016-03-01T12:06:42.754-07:00Just how firm are we talking? Firmer/less firm tha...Just how firm are we talking? Firmer/less firm than the Merrell Bare Access? I have the BA4's and they are a bit too firm for me without enough cushioning. The Virrata was a perfect shoe for me (and even that, at times, felt a bit on the lighter side, but I was injury free and pain free for 2 years straight running on nothing else). Now that the inventory of remaining Virrata's is gone, I'm looking for a new go-to shoe. The Merrell has broken in nicely but on the long weekend runs I sometimes get pain in the middle/ball of my left foot, nothing like that ever happened in the Virrata, so I'm thinking a little more cushioning while remaining in a zero drop shoe will do the trick, but flexibility might also be the issue.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16477280386233433416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-88711011084905537152015-04-30T09:21:00.446-06:002015-04-30T09:21:00.446-06:00I have not run in the Olympus but have run and rev...I have not run in the Olympus but have run and reviewed the Paradigm, in many ways the road version of the Olympus. My review here http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2014/08/review-altra-running-paradigm-max.html<br />While Altras have plenty of width they sometimes can be a bit low over the toes as I found the Paradigm to be due to the toe overlays. Also note that Altra's are zero drop and that takes some getting used to. Clitfons are 5mm or so. For me the difference between 4-5mm and zero is significant particularly in relatively soft shoes such as Paradigm. Even Clifton is too soft for me in the heel. You can get an aftermarket insole to add some drop and a bit more stability in the heel. I use SuperFeet Carbon which add about 4mm of heel lift.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-17339198108443433942015-04-29T19:05:35.161-06:002015-04-29T19:05:35.161-06:00How would the Olympus perform as a road shoe? I p...How would the Olympus perform as a road shoe? I primarily do road running. I have a serious problem with my 3rd toe getting jammed into the top of the shoe. Latest marathon left me with a huge blood blister. I ran it in a pair of Hoka Clifton's, but have been reading a lot about the Altras.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-88884848304942220622015-01-22T08:10:22.700-07:002015-01-22T08:10:22.700-07:00For AJ: Maybe the lower and firmer Instinct 3.0 wi...For AJ: Maybe the lower and firmer Instinct 3.0 will work a little better for you. <br /><br />I have the Instinct 1.0 and Lone Peak 1.0 and I love the fit of both shoes. The Instinct 1.0 just wasn't flexible enough for me. This is obviously an exaggeration, but it was like a stiff flat board hitting the pavement and it really took the flexion of my feet out of the ball game. It looks like they've fixed that issue though by segmenting the sole. I wasn't interested in the 2.0 because it overlapped too much with their other cushioned models like the Torin, but I'm excited to try the 3.0.<br /><br />The Lone Peak has been a great hiking shoe for me but felt just a little too clunky and was quickly replaced as my trail running shoe. The new superior and updated lone peak look awesome though and I will probably give them a try. My only concern is with that nylon looking mesh upper material. I can see why it would have some great utilities as a trail upper material, but some other shoes I've tried that use it, have created some discomfort at the dorsal base of my toes where it creases. I'll definitely still give them a try, the material or fit could be different and may not cause any problems at all.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15273737173693502830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-27041025562445272862015-01-01T22:20:15.627-07:002015-01-01T22:20:15.627-07:00I tried the Lone Peak 2.0, but the cutesy retro bo...I tried the Lone Peak 2.0, but the cutesy retro bowling shoe styling upper did not hold my foot in place over the midsole; on sidehills it partially slid off the edge, no amount of fiddling with the lacing helped. Maybe there is a 2.5 in the works with a more functional upper. I currently use the Hoka Challenger ATR for trails, and it has been excellent in all ways. My Olympus with 450+ miles still have a lot of life in them, and have been retired to pavement runs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-23890399232644760252015-01-01T07:12:29.789-07:002015-01-01T07:12:29.789-07:00For Sam L - I own a pair of One2's and after 1...For Sam L - I own a pair of One2's and after 100 miles they show minimal wear. I really like them as a daily runner and have run one marathon in them with no issues. I previously ran in the Instinct 1.5, which weren't as durable. Looking forward to trying the Instinct 3.MikeSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-59987316078158055842014-12-02T12:21:14.917-07:002014-12-02T12:21:14.917-07:00Just ordered a pair of the Olympus 1.5 from Roadru...Just ordered a pair of the Olympus 1.5 from Roadrunner for January delivery. Tried the original, but the metal eyelets gave me a wicked blister, so I'm happy to see the revision doesn't have that. Been wearing Hoka Bondis for a few years, but they are changing the last which is not good for someone with a wide forefoot like me. LOVE the cushioning for ultras, but need that wide toe box that Altra offers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890855495183189525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-45929574506826106772014-11-28T06:21:09.761-07:002014-11-28T06:21:09.761-07:00Golden, if you are still looking, what can you tel...Golden, if you are still looking, what can you tell me about the weight of the Instinct 3.0? I really want to try Altra's shoes because of the zero drop and wide toe box, but I can't get past the weight of the models that have full outsoles since I currently wear the NB Minimus, which is just over 6oz (I worry the One2 isn't durable enough to be a daily trainer). Any chance Altra would put a more substantial outsole on the One2 or that the Instinct 3.0 will weigh under 8 oz?Sam Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-35321571520931628992014-11-21T22:30:22.385-07:002014-11-21T22:30:22.385-07:00I am with you Chris M. I have the Olympus. Torin...I am with you Chris M. I have the Olympus. Torin. Lone Peak 1.5. Dont use the LP much. Like the tread, but they are just stiff I guess. Would like a more minimal show from the Olympus. Superious 2.0 looks good, but I plan for my first 100 in 2015. Not sure if a superior has the cushion to get through<br />Ted Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-719702517891919712014-11-20T14:25:05.240-07:002014-11-20T14:25:05.240-07:00How do the Superior 2.0 compare to the Lone Peak 1...How do the Superior 2.0 compare to the Lone Peak 1.0 and 1.5s? Looks like the Superiors will have tread and stack height close to the earlier Lone Peaks. Thought the original Superiors didn't have enough cushioning for me, but may have to rethink it and make the Superiors my go-to trail shoe.Chris Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-8940311488964257682014-10-31T21:58:59.429-06:002014-10-31T21:58:59.429-06:00I'm a fan of the Altra fit, but as a trail run...I'm a fan of the Altra fit, but as a trail runner haven't found a good all-around shoe. If I could somehow get the Olympus upper with a Lone Peak 2 mid and outsole, I'd be cruising. It will be interesting to see the Olympus 1.5, and I'll almost surely buy a pair, but the rib tread is unstable on anything loose, whereas the Lone Peak 2 lug sole gives confidence with it's ability to prevent lateral movement. Maybe an OlymPeak is in the future? ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-31566612130535016612014-10-29T08:20:38.265-06:002014-10-29T08:20:38.265-06:00Hi Sam, are they updating the Paradigm as well?
T...Hi Sam, are they updating the Paradigm as well?<br /><br />Thanks<br />GeoffAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-90603956374963067632014-10-23T17:43:33.290-06:002014-10-23T17:43:33.290-06:00Thanks for the reply Golden. Sounds like nice twe...Thanks for the reply Golden. Sounds like nice tweaks to the Instinct 3, look forward to owning a pair. Also watching for the Superior 2.0, looks like a great show for Florida trail running! Take it easy.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-15494378877165844442014-10-21T14:02:07.184-06:002014-10-21T14:02:07.184-06:00Ok, here we go:
For Mike: The midsole material w...Ok, here we go:<br /><br />For Mike: The midsole material will be very similar, but it will just be made firmer. The Last is essentially the same, but a bit more secure through the heel and midfoot. <br /><br />For AJ: Your comments are on point and We totally want to make true wide's, but have to wait until it is financially feasible. <br /><br />For Luis: Provision 2 will be available sometime in January. <br /><br />Tuesday: Instinct 3 has essentially the same outsole as the Instinct 2. However, the midsole is a bit more responsive and a touch thinner. <br /><br />Wish I could give everyone exactly the answers they were hoping for! Hopefully the updates are for the best for the majority of people out there. Run on!Golden Harper - Altrahttp://blog.altrazerodrop.com/team/golden-harper/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-30426100871821010642014-10-20T10:08:03.851-06:002014-10-20T10:08:03.851-06:00Does the instinct 3.0 have a full rubber outsole? ...Does the instinct 3.0 have a full rubber outsole? As one of those who was disappointed in the 2.0, I'm really pleased that Altra heard us and have responded with a new update. The 3.0 definitely looks more promising. Look forward to release. Any ideas on timing?<br /><br />Thanks for the details!i like tuesdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16937874131639158974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-43552456269804755582014-10-19T18:00:31.904-06:002014-10-19T18:00:31.904-06:00When the Provision 2.0 will be available?When the Provision 2.0 will be available?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05835611997019627859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-66154293781535466182014-10-06T15:36:35.002-06:002014-10-06T15:36:35.002-06:00Slightly off topic, but since Golden Harper is rea...Slightly off topic, but since Golden Harper is reading the comments, I just want to beg one time for some of the shoes to be made in a wide version. The basic models alone (Instinct and Lone Peak) would do the trick. The additional toe box space is great, but the additional stack height in many of the shoes -- something I fully support and like -- is making them dangerous for those of us with wide feet. My foot spills over the last in both the Lone Peak 1.5 and 2.0, mainly along the midfoot. I have no issue with the 1.5 (though I can see the bulge forming in the sides of the shoe), but I had 2 ankle twists in my first outing in the 2.0 and had to send them back, regrettably. I could feel the instability just walking around in them. I loved everything else about the Lone Peak 2.0 and want badly to own a pair.AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03256410616083520026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-87776650441563376562014-09-29T10:57:07.292-06:002014-09-29T10:57:07.292-06:00I just might review the Instinct 3 if I can get a ...I just might review the Instinct 3 if I can get a pair ealry but first want to continue to put some miles on all the other goodies I have.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-30041654871108094062014-09-28T08:31:19.592-06:002014-09-28T08:31:19.592-06:00Sam, will you be reviewing the Altra Instinct 3?Sam, will you be reviewing the Altra Instinct 3?Mike Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-51357059782926835042014-09-26T19:19:29.760-06:002014-09-26T19:19:29.760-06:00What is changing about the midsole material for th...What is changing about the midsole material for the Instinct 3? Will the outsole and last be the same? Thanks.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-65965508775842065912014-09-24T21:20:17.627-06:002014-09-24T21:20:17.627-06:00For those who were asking, the Instinct 3 will als...For those who were asking, the Instinct 3 will also come in a Gray/Red and a Black. <br /><br />As for the Olympus, the outsole will look essentially the same, but people should notice a definite bump in traction do to slightly raising lugs and recessing others that are currently wiping out traction. <br /><br />-Golden Harper, FounderGolden Harperhttp://blog.altrazerodrop.com/team/golden-harper/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-897487905458248132014-09-24T20:19:22.409-06:002014-09-24T20:19:22.409-06:00Thanks for reading! Good catch on Instinct 2.5 mar...Thanks for reading! Good catch on Instinct 2.5 marking on sample Instinct 3. Golden Harper founder called it to my attention as an issue with sample he showed me. Not sure on colors will find out. Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-79962255757599939092014-09-24T18:58:37.891-06:002014-09-24T18:58:37.891-06:00Wondering if the Instinct 3.0 had any other colors...Wondering if the Instinct 3.0 had any other colors? Also noticed that the Instinct 3.0 says 2.5 on the top of the toes. Thanks for the great write up!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com