tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post5181995287837290035..comments2024-03-18T19:18:40.822-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Saucony Triumph ISO 4 First Run Impressions: Smooth All OverSam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-91804901943714974072017-12-07T04:42:03.442-07:002017-12-07T04:42:03.442-07:00Great, looking forward to the review. :)
Great, looking forward to the review. :)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-46481295034984815582017-12-01T21:58:32.082-07:002017-12-01T21:58:32.082-07:00Hi Anonymous,
I hope to have the full review poste...Hi Anonymous,<br />I hope to have the full review posted by the end of next week. My initial comparative conclusions above still hold true. Levitate has a more "hydraulic piston" like midsole feel, measured kind of energy return with Triumph somewhat more responsive and bouncier <br />Sam, EditorSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-5060347831018347942017-12-01T19:03:54.214-07:002017-12-01T19:03:54.214-07:00Hi Sam,
When will the full review of the Saucony t...Hi Sam,<br />When will the full review of the Saucony triumph iso 4 be out? It would be great if you could compare it to the new Brooks levitate and other cushioned shoes. Thanks Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-36898668669258182772017-12-01T12:57:32.170-07:002017-12-01T12:57:32.170-07:00Hi Anonymous, Triumph ISO 4 significantly more cus...Hi Anonymous, Triumph ISO 4 significantly more cushioned and stable than Freedom. More Everun but also firmer outsole. Also look at New Liberty ISO. Much like Freedom but overall more stable and roomier. See below for link to its review from our index page<br />Sam, Editor<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run! See our page with links to all reviews here http://www.roadtrailrun.com/p/blog-page.html You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews. Shopping through links on articles help support RoadTrail Run and is much appreciated. Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-89046503939623813732017-12-01T05:38:05.783-07:002017-12-01T05:38:05.783-07:00Hi Sam
I love the feel and ride of the freedom iso...Hi Sam<br />I love the feel and ride of the freedom iso but it just doesn’t have enough cushioning for my weight<br />Does this feel like a beefed up version or is it significantly different in firmness?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-30136109531869152192017-10-24T05:31:38.128-06:002017-10-24T05:31:38.128-06:00Hi Sam
I could not stand the iso 2 for one simple ...Hi Sam<br />I could not stand the iso 2 for one simple reason that once I tied it tight the top started bunching/folding in which made it lose some structure in my view<br />The lacing system looks much more like the freedom iso which is much better so is this still a problem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-59849432845369960102017-10-11T09:51:57.387-06:002017-10-11T09:51:57.387-06:00Hi Anonymous, First very different shoes as the Bo...Hi Anonymous, First very different shoes as the Boston is a light performance trainer and the ISO 4 a heavy duty trainer. The Boston has good pop off the heel but is softer there and less stable. A better comparison to Boston might be the Freedom ISO which is slightly firmer as far as Everun and has no heel counter so yet less stable for me. You might consider the adidas Tempo 9. It has Boost plus a thicker layer of EVA than Boston. It is firmer than Boston but not quite as firm or massive as ISO 4. firmer pop off the heel than Boston. Very stable all over as it has some light stability elements including a layer over the side wall at the mid foot boost to stabilize. Some may not care for this but I am neutral and have no big issues and it is decently light, lighter than Triumph ISO 4. See reviews for all of the above at the link below. <br />Sam, Editor<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run! See our page with links to all reviews here http://www.roadtrailrun.com/p/blog-page.html You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews. Shopping through links on articles help support RoadTrail Run and is much appreciated. <br /><br />Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-76851551891830117662017-10-11T08:14:44.338-06:002017-10-11T08:14:44.338-06:00How does shock absorption and pop off heal of iso ...How does shock absorption and pop off heal of iso 4(Everun)compares to Boston 6<br />(boost)? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-69121282887450509532017-10-11T07:13:02.007-06:002017-10-11T07:13:02.007-06:00Hi Unknown,
There is good attenuation of shock vib...Hi Unknown,<br />There is good attenuation of shock vibration to legs and feet here. Better than ISO 3 for example. The Everun does distribute the forces well. Sometimes soft midsoles attenuate shock but do not rebound much, a mushy sinking then struggle to go forward. Not the case here as there is good rebound also better than ISO 3 from the combination of the Everun and the firm outsole. As the foot compresses the midsole at the right moment you want the shoe to respond to transition then toe off and the rubber here does a good job of that.<br />Sam, EditorSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-62117609252327956572017-10-11T06:41:41.442-06:002017-10-11T06:41:41.442-06:00What does transmit less shock means?
Will it give...What does transmit less shock means? <br />Will it give shock to legs, feet (which is bad) <br />Or will it distribute the shock effect(which is good thing)Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756938178066035712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-72245464283364868802017-09-29T07:38:35.890-06:002017-09-29T07:38:35.890-06:00Hi Sam, thanks for speedy reply. Yes the Mach and ...Hi Sam, thanks for speedy reply. Yes the Mach and Cavu look interesting for my next 10k race shoe. I have just tried on the Ultra Road 2 at local Skechers store but the knit upper worries me about breathability. I get very hot feet and I got the impression they would roast in that upper. Might be wrong. Although the Triumph isn’t out for a month or so and is heavier I’m tempted to hold out for that as my daily distance trainer. I don’t mind the softness of the Clifton but the toe box and restricted/shallow upper has been causing more problems recently - I think my feet are growing or swell much earlier when out running. Wes Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04438941659328895668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-6330942939231952642017-09-29T07:10:42.596-06:002017-09-29T07:10:42.596-06:00HI Wes, Skechers Ultra Road 2 would be a good rep...HI Wes, Skechers Ultra Road 2 would be a good replacement. Somewhat firmer than Clifton 2 land Clifton 3 was about the same as 2 it has a great upper and is light. The Clifton 4 is not a completely different shoe it is somewhat firmer and for some the upper snugger. It is different in the sense it is heavier. The logical replacement for Cliftons of old such as the 1 might be the upcoming Mach, Clayton 3 if you will in Feb. Just starting to run in this 7.9 oz shoe and while firmer than Clifton,a good thing for me as I found all Cliftons overly soft and unstable at the heel, it is slightly softer than Clayton and transitions vey nicely. Upper has plenty of well held room. Triumph ISO4 would be a great move over from Clifton. Should be far more durable and long lasting has a very roomy well held upper and plenty of cushion with some bounce. It is a considerably heavier shoe at more than 10.5 oz Reviews of all expect Mach (coming) at the index page linked below<br />Sam. Editor<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run! See our page with links to all reviews here http://www.roadtrailrun.com/p/blog-page.html You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews. Shopping through links on articles help support RoadTrail Run and is much appreciated. Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-69958885005865176472017-09-29T05:35:32.653-06:002017-09-29T05:35:32.653-06:00Hi, finally stepping away from my Clifton 3s as my...Hi, finally stepping away from my Clifton 3s as my go to daily trainer for long steady miles. I’m currently deciding between this and the Skechers Ultra Road 2. Any observations regarding these two options as a Clifton 3 replacement? From what I’ve read the Clifton 4 is almost a completely different shoe hence why I’m not considering it.Wes Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04438941659328895668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-59584384943614166062017-09-07T05:27:01.843-06:002017-09-07T05:27:01.843-06:00ISO 4 is slightly softer in the heel than ISO3 due...ISO 4 is slightly softer in the heel than ISO3 due to the Everun <br />Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-23508067607338877582017-09-06T21:31:56.854-06:002017-09-06T21:31:56.854-06:00Thanks, is the saucony triumph iso 4 slightly soft...Thanks, is the saucony triumph iso 4 slightly softer in the heal than the saucony triumph iso 3. I found the saucony iso 3 a little too firm in the heel. Thanks and love your reviews. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-53082771120605177982017-09-06T11:10:29.915-06:002017-09-06T11:10:29.915-06:00Hi Anonymous,
A slightly firmer ride for Triumph ...Hi Anonymous, <br />A slightly firmer ride for Triumph ISO 4 from what I can tell so far but with more bounce. I find Glycerin a bit to soft for me. <br />Thanks for reading!<br />Sam, EditorSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-66471637312280168962017-09-06T11:03:35.925-06:002017-09-06T11:03:35.925-06:00Is the Triumph ISO 4 a softer or firmer ride than ...Is the Triumph ISO 4 a softer or firmer ride than the Glycerin 15? Appreciate your reviews very much. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-47653382726478584982017-09-04T09:55:10.521-06:002017-09-04T09:55:10.521-06:00Hi Anonymous,
Not as soft as Freedom whose softnes...Hi Anonymous,<br />Not as soft as Freedom whose softness I think comes mostly from the softer less substantial outsole, particularly at the heel, less drop and no heel counter on Freedom. Unlike Freedom also plenty of forefoot cushion. So ISO 4 is more stable. In terms of faster slower paces similar to ISO 3 but with more bounce but a touch less response as not as firm, a more comfortable upper, and a smoother transition. <br />Sam, Editor<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run! You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews. Shopping through links on articles help support RoadTrail Run and is much appreciated. <br /><br />Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-15282780215960415482017-09-04T09:00:32.937-06:002017-09-04T09:00:32.937-06:00Thanks for your quick response. Would you say they...Thanks for your quick response. Would you say they as soft as the saucony freedoms? or slightly firmer. Also would you say they are more for slow and moderate pace like the triumphs 3s or can you do faster paces in them too. Sounds like they have quite a bit of bounce to them too. Thanks Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-34864858333238293482017-08-28T06:24:41.295-06:002017-08-28T06:24:41.295-06:00Hi Anonymous,
It is early in my evaluation but yes...Hi Anonymous,<br />It is early in my evaluation but yes it is a touch softer than ISO 3 overall. I would say the ISO 3 is a bit more responsive but also harsher in feel, more shock transmitted. Transitions in the ISO 4 are smoother. The full Everun midsole is the big change. There is no question it makes for a more comfortable somewhat bouncier ride but shoe gains about 0.7 oz in weight, not that noticeable. If the ISO 3 upper works for you the ISO 4's while more comfortable is not a huge change. Hope this helps<br />Sam, Editor<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run! You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews. Shopping through links on articles help support RoadTrail Run and is much appreciated. <br /> Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-19042961946911268912017-08-28T00:40:18.891-06:002017-08-28T00:40:18.891-06:00Hi,
Is it softer in the heel and front (iso 4) tha...Hi,<br />Is it softer in the heel and front (iso 4) than the saucony triumph iso 3? Is it as stable? Which is more responsive shoe? I wasn't sure by your comments - I think you said the iso 4 has faster transition but dosen't have the pop in the heel of the iso 3. Would you see the iso 4 as an upgrade overall or more a side grade. I have the iso 3 so it would be helpful whether to stay with it or not. Thanks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com