tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post3265733453055905343..comments2024-03-28T21:52:44.835-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Skechers Performance GO RUN RIDE 8 HYPER Multi Tester Review: Is it GRR8?Sam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-75003684594173539952020-10-27T02:20:55.293-06:002020-10-27T02:20:55.293-06:00Hi guys,
I just started running in this shoe rece...Hi guys,<br /><br />I just started running in this shoe recently and when I run in it at around 9kms I start to feel pain on the outside of my left ankle. It seems to go away a bit when i lace them up tighter around the ankle. This is something that I have only experienced in one other shoe - the razor 3. I run much longer distances in other shoes without this issue. Does anyone else have a similar experience in these shoes or have an idea when it might be from? My feeling is that it has to do with the lack of stability inherently in the hyperburst foam. What do you guys think?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06145479248683567440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-22008943007220122432020-02-03T16:29:47.766-07:002020-02-03T16:29:47.766-07:00Hi JMullahy,
Fit-wise the GRR8 and Zephyr are ver...Hi JMullahy,<br /><br />Fit-wise the GRR8 and Zephyr are very close. Both fit perfectly true-to-size (not quite a full thumb's width from end of big toe to end of shoe), and obviously the Topo toebox has more room, though the GRR8 toebox is very good for a traditionally shaped shoe. Beneath the foot you can feel the extra stack in the GRR8, and the Zephyr is not only lower to the ground, it's also firmer, likely from the plate in it.<br /><br />That said, I enjoy the Zephyr quite a bit more. I know it is strictly a speed day shoe for some, but I've used it on easy days and long runs, and really enjoy the ride, fit, and quality of materials. If I was a one shoe quiver kind of runner, the Zephyr would be on my short list.<br /><br />Hope that helps!Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01491871518212256938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-53754471141703439482020-02-03T10:55:28.178-07:002020-02-03T10:55:28.178-07:00Super review. I noticed this is published around t...Super review. I noticed this is published around the same time as your Topo Zephyr review. I am curious how GRR8 compares to the Zephyr. I'm mainly curious on the fit compare. Thank you!JMullahyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01860595220199559881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-18696763676828195562020-01-19T16:14:05.399-07:002020-01-19T16:14:05.399-07:00Great review. I adore this shoe. Better than the b...Great review. I adore this shoe. Better than the beacon and propel which are both terrific in their own right. 60https://www.blogger.com/profile/01831912955519175141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-24897364965912163822019-10-31T11:34:12.931-06:002019-10-31T11:34:12.931-06:00How does the GRR8 compare to the Forza 3?How does the GRR8 compare to the Forza 3?sobrnolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16862801759604309256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-79490830601601064442019-10-28T09:22:26.089-06:002019-10-28T09:22:26.089-06:00For UK readers, Skechers advise me these will go o...For UK readers, Skechers advise me these will go on sale via Skechers online in UK from mid Jan 2020Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-24924146127384712282019-10-16T12:48:41.842-06:002019-10-16T12:48:41.842-06:00Anonymous,
GRR8 is much better protected under fo...Anonymous,<br /><br />GRR8 is much better protected under foot than the GRR7. Not quite as plush as the T17, but close, much closer in ride than the 1080v9. I think the GRR8 could definitely be a marathon shoe, and is great for tempos too. Hope that helps!Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01491871518212256938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-45744319021976441112019-10-16T00:40:14.501-06:002019-10-16T00:40:14.501-06:00A quick few questions - Is the GRR8 more cushioned...A quick few questions - Is the GRR8 more cushioned and has better vibration dampening than the GRR7 or similar. Is the underfoot feel more plush like the Saucony T17 or firm like NB 1080 v9. Would you recommend these for up to marathon length, and they okay for tempos as well. Thanks Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-21311536149273345842019-10-12T00:18:46.546-06:002019-10-12T00:18:46.546-06:00Hi Anonymous,
No worries, talking about running s...Hi Anonymous,<br /><br />No worries, talking about running shoes is fun.<br /><br />The GRR8 upper is MUCH more breathable than the GRR7. That said, I think the Triumph 17 is more breathable than the GRR8.<br /><br />I'm up to watch Eliud Kipchoge, so I just threw on each foot and did a lap around the block - my neighbors probably think I'm a weirdo. Similar cushioning levels between the two shoes, but the Triumph definitely has more underneath, I'd guess at least 2-3mm. I haven't seen official stack numbers, but definitely more protection. Doesn't feel sluggish in any way though, and actually feels a little more bouncy than the GRR8. <br /><br />Feel free if you have any other questions, we really enjoy helping, and not sure where in the world you are, but I'll be up for the next two hours, and around all weekend.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01491871518212256938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-47817592156069245102019-10-11T00:22:28.912-06:002019-10-11T00:22:28.912-06:00Thanks Jeff,
Did you find the upper hotter or mor...Thanks Jeff, <br />Did you find the upper hotter or more breathable in the Skechers GRR8 than the RR7 from last year, as I found the 7 hot in the summer months. The Triumph 17 is it a more breathable upper than the GRR8. Cushioning levels is it similar and is it firmer or softer underfoot between the Skechers GRR8 and saucony T17.<br />The GRR8 they will only sell online here so can't trial it before I might buy it - hence all the questions. :( <br />Thanks :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-79093850230152159352019-10-10T23:34:13.045-06:002019-10-10T23:34:13.045-06:00Anonymous,
Yeah, very interesting to see what eve...Anonymous,<br /><br />Yeah, very interesting to see what everyone else is going to have coming soon, otherwise they *will* definitely get left behind. I'm surprised how fast I've become enamored with PWRRUN+, and my Hyper Burst enthusiasm is well documented on this website, Boost just feels heavy, and DNA Loft is great for a comfortable ride, but isn't nearly as responsive as the others in the conversation.<br /><br />As for more responsive between the T17 and GRR8? Probably the GRR8, especially with the insole out. I'll know more over the next few days, but I did strides after one of my T17 runs, and it felt really good. But the old "no replacement for displacement" logic holds, and the GRR8 without insole is 2 ounces lighter than the Triumph 17 - so if you want a faster shoe I'd stick with the Skechers Performance.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01491871518212256938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-53104791665716582302019-10-10T21:40:36.050-06:002019-10-10T21:40:36.050-06:00Thank you for the response and advice, Sam. I ca...Thank you for the response and advice, Sam. I can't do the Mizuno because of the high drop - my knee functions only with soft surfaces, low drop, and high, soft cushion. Most trail shoes are too firm in the midsole - Challenger ATR 2 and Speedgoats were unrunnable due to knee pain post-use. The only trail shoes I've been able to use are Go Trail Ultra 3s (awesome) and Timp 1.5s. Most of my runs are in road shoes that work ok on grass (Cliftons, Paradigm 1.5), hence my question about the GRR8 and the Torins. Which would you say is better for traction off road? Which upper is best for not weighing a ton when wet?70's Teenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18117423200938953666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-77859670122510733632019-10-10T19:49:54.104-06:002019-10-10T19:49:54.104-06:00Thanks the Jeff, great help. Yes significant price...Thanks the Jeff, great help. Yes significant price between the S7 and saucony 17. Which is more responsive faster shoe between them, Poor adidas and brooks are been left behind. Thanks :) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-32923185836723076092019-10-10T16:37:49.676-06:002019-10-10T16:37:49.676-06:00Hi Anonymous,
I haven't run in the Propel, bu...Hi Anonymous,<br /><br />I haven't run in the Propel, but the rest of the trainers you listed I've reviewed or will be reviewing very shortly. On a whim, I'm also going to throw the Fuel Cell Rebel in there, in case you have run in that in addition to the Propel.<br /><br />The GRR8 is substantially lighter (10.2 ounces for my 10.5) than the Triumph ISO 5 (12.9 for my 11) or Triumph 17 (11.5 for my 11), and only slightly than the 1080v9 (10.6 for my 10.5). The Rebel is the big outlier (8oz for my 10.5).<br /><br />GRR8 vs 1080v9<br />These two are susprisingly similar. The 1080v9 upper has a little more stretch to it, especially in the toebox, but it is still the only shoe I have to use a runner's loop to eliminate heel slip. Something about that design just doesn't work for me, and if I remember the review, Hope had the same issue I did. The 1080v9 upper also breathes better. Fresh Foam is much firmer than Hyper Burst, and the GRR8 has a much bouncier ride to it. I really like the 1080v9, it was such a massive improvement over the v8, but the GRR8 is much more fun to run in. Durability wise, the 1080 might have a minor edge because of all the rubber covering the outsole compared to the GRR8's strategic rubber placement, but both shoes will last very well. Personally I heavily favor the GRR8.<br /><br />GRR8 vs Triumph ISO 5<br />I believe this is the heaviest road shoe I've ever run in. It feels super premium, the upper materials have plushness to them that few shoes can match, and while the toebox isn't Altra/Topo level, it's very close. But the Everun midsole is so dense and heavy, and reminds me a little of the Nike Zoom Fly Flyknit, in that the balance of the shoe feels a little off. I like how it rides, and the crystal rubber outsole is great, but it is nowhere near as energetic as the Hyper Burst in the GRR8. Running up and down the street with one on each foot makes it super clear how much Everun is a heavy and dense material that's made to take a beating, but not one that you want for any type of uptempo effort. GRR8 by a country mile.<br /><br />GRR8 vs Triumph 17<br />I only have a couple run in the 17, but so far I'm enamored with it. PWRRUN+ is the update to Everun, and if the T17 is any indication, Saucony is on to something good. The upper is more refined than the ISO 5, but still feels super premium (though not loving the tube-style laces, but that's the easiest fix there is). Definitely a better toebox than the GRR8, but the big question is midsole/outsole/ride. Plainly put - it is REALLY good. PWRRUN+ reminds me a lot of Hyper Burst (though more dense and heavier, it also makes me think it might be more durable - not that HB has durability issues) in that it is soft without being mushy at easy paces and feels outstanding at faster speeds too. Not the shoe I'd bring to the track for 400s/800s, but a great choice for tempo runs or fartleks - and of course long runs. I'm on the fence on which I'd prefer, the GRR8 has a much better price tag, while the T17 has a better feeling upper and arguably a better ride. I'm enough of a toebox snob I'd probably give the edge to the Triumph, but both are truly fantastic shoes.<br /><br />Bonus: GRR8 vs New Balance Fuel Cell Rebel<br />As a long time supinator I love the extra ridge NB put on the lateral edge of the midfoot, and Fuel Cell cushioning is top notch along with an upper that holds the foot in the right places without strangling it in the wrong places. All that said, there's no comparison, the GRR8 rides that much more bouncy, and feels that much better at pace. GRR8 all day long.<br /><br />I hope that helps, and someone else can chime in with a New Balance Fuel Cell Propel comparison. If you have any other questions fire away, we're happy to help.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01491871518212256938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-63100945018474630752019-10-10T16:37:03.282-06:002019-10-10T16:37:03.282-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01491871518212256938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-54366151711679912182019-10-10T16:00:18.335-06:002019-10-10T16:00:18.335-06:00Hi 70's Teen,
I am not sure either will be gre...Hi 70's Teen,<br />I am not sure either will be great on wet grass or muddier dirt. Not much outsole profile. While not always the most cushioned Nike's tend to have good lugs for some off road. Another to look at the Mizuno Sky Wave Knit 3.<br />It has decent lugs and very forgiving yet stable cushion. You will find the review at the link below.<br />Sam, Editor <br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run! See our page with links 100’s of in depth shoe and gear reviews <a href="http://www.roadtrailrun.com/p/blog-page.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. You can also follow RoadTrailRun on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews. <br />Shopping through links on articles help support RoadTrail Run and is much appreciated!Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-34490267440431700192019-10-10T15:55:36.550-06:002019-10-10T15:55:36.550-06:00Great review, just wondering how it compares to so...Great review, just wondering how it compares to some traditional cushioned daily trainers: New balance 1080 v9, New balance propel, Saucony triumph iso 5 and the new 17. With cushioning levels, and slow, medium , fast pace runs, overall etc. Thanks :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-66085162910712733692019-10-10T14:19:36.876-06:002019-10-10T14:19:36.876-06:00Your collective reviews were close to what I expec...Your collective reviews were close to what I expected. For me, it's the GRR8 or the Torin 4 (not sure which T4). Cushion is important due to a knee issue. Assume the upper will often get wet with dew. How would you compare the two for slow to average pace runs on dirt and grass with some pavement?70's Teenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18117423200938953666noreply@blogger.com