tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post3118387662287646061..comments2024-03-28T21:52:44.835-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Saucony Endorphin Edge Multi Tester Review: Carbon Plated, Super Foam Trail Racer! 9 ComparisonsSam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-24672305334041593732023-06-26T20:18:17.058-06:002023-06-26T20:18:17.058-06:00Hey Rob-
First off, thanks for reading and it'...Hey Rob-<br /><br />First off, thanks for reading and it's great to hear that kind of feedback. I'm pretty surprised by the weights that you got. Before checking my shoe spreadsheet, I'm almost certain that the Endo Edge would be the lightest of the shoes that you mentioned. I just know then even holding the shoe in hand - it feels noticeably light compared to pretty much everything outside of Pulsar or Kjerag. <br /><br />It's an interesting question as to whether sizing affects shoe weight - maybe due to differences in the volume of different materials that make up the shoe? But I would still expect the differences to be marginal. The fact that your Edges are the highest is very curious.<br /><br />These are my weights in US 9.5 or 10.0 depending on the shoe -<br />Edge - 9.2<br />G270 - 9.8<br />Catamount 2 - 9.8<br />Ultraglide 2 - 10.2<br />EVO SG - 9.2<br />Xodus Ultra 2 - 10.0<br />Speedgoat 5 - 10.7<br />Mike Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981870314602171757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-56359577815160320372023-06-26T19:15:21.671-06:002023-06-26T19:15:21.671-06:00Hi, I've been reading your reviews of trail sh...Hi, I've been reading your reviews of trail shoes extensively for the last year and I love them! In terms of trail running, since then I've done the Bridger Ridge Run outside of Bozeman, MT, Tahoe 100 km (Destination Trails) and some shorter runs around Michigan. I'm gearing up for Scummy Summer Slammer a 3 day (not continuous) ultra mountain running event outside of Bozeman. I bought a nice scale to start weighing my shoes (typically a size 12) after pouring over all the information you share and all the shoe choices out there. One of my biggest surprises is that in size 12, the Saucony Endorphin Edge ends up weighing the heaviest (at 11.65 oz) in a group including: inov-8 TUG G270 11.1 oz, Brooks Catamount V1 11.2, Salomon ultraglide V1 11.35, Speedgoat Evo (size 12.5) 11.55, Saucony Exodus Ultra 11.63 and Speedgoat 5 11.65. And I've weighed two different pair both ordered from road runner sports. In the first pair they sent me the left shoe was 12.3 oz and the right shoe was 11.5. That seemed like a defect so I exchanged them. The new pair was 11.8 (L), 11.5 (R). So all this is to say that I am quite surprised this shoe is so heavy relative to others in size 12, especially when a big part of the excitement about this shoe is how light it is. I have not run in it yet and I"m thinking about sending it back and getting the catamount 2 given how great the reviews are for that. Could this be a manufacturing defect after they sent out the "early release" shoes? Have any of you gotten a follow-up pair and weighed them? Thank you for any insight!!<br /><br />I will add that according to published weights in size 9, the salamon UG V1 should be the heaviest, but it falls right near the average (11.3) for the group and below the median (11.45). And I"ve weighed two different brand new pair of UG in size 12. That is a bit of a surprise, but not nearly as big of a discrepancy as seen in the relative published versus measured weight of the Saucony endorphin edge. Thoughts? Thanks again for sharing all the great insights!Rob Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533960893280366614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-69458142805801954862022-07-12T09:56:32.753-06:002022-07-12T09:56:32.753-06:00Hi David-
It's so hard to judge, so much is b...Hi David-<br /><br />It's so hard to judge, so much is based on terrain as well as personal preference in terms of feel and level of cushioning, etc. I'll try my best two answer 2 ways, both objectively and subjectively, and throw some distances out. <br /><br />Pulsar has a much narrower platform, so less stable generally, and slightly firmer and less cushion. If you're a very efficient runner with good form you can stretch them into longer distances where they would start to feel more unstable and harsh for most runners. On smooth-moderate terrain, I'd say generally anywhere from super short races up to 26.2 for most runners. <br /><br />Edge is a bit wider, more stable, and most importantly for most runners, a bit softer and more cushioned. On smooth-moderate terrain, the Edge is good anywhere from super short races up to 50M for most runners. For efficient runners, in the right terrain I could easily see them being a 100K - 100M shoe. <br /><br />Personally, I've raced the OG Pulsar up to 50M in smooth-moderate terrain, but with ~9k ft. elevation gain. My feet felt it by the end, but weren't totally wrecked. I just raced the Edge 26.2M in smooth-moderate terrain (~5k ft. gain) and they felt good. I had some soreness on the outside of my right foot, but I did run them right out of the box with no testing or break-in. <br /><br />Hope that helps.Mike Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981870314602171757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-56244118626405065872022-07-12T09:11:43.920-06:002022-07-12T09:11:43.920-06:00Hi Testers,
when you conclude the comparison betw...Hi Testers,<br /><br />when you conclude the comparison between Pulsar SG and Edge you agree that Pulsar is for fast and short and Edge for long and smooth (and fast).<br />As Trailruns can varie strong in terms of mileage, can you give a number or range when you would do the shoe switch?<br /><br />Best regards,<br />DavidDavidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-45396794863307522382022-07-09T15:40:47.946-06:002022-07-09T15:40:47.946-06:00Mitchell- I haven't tried the Tecton X yet, I...Mitchell- I haven't tried the Tecton X yet, I think Jeff V can probably chime in on this one. But I'll just say that I didn't find the stiffness of the Edge too noticeable in the forefoot. The one-way flex of the Carbitex plate seems to allow a good amount of flex - the flex point being around the ball of the foot. From what I've heard, the Tecton X sounds like a firmer ride. Mike Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981870314602171757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-76418944503704736792022-07-08T13:00:00.057-06:002022-07-08T13:00:00.057-06:00Hi, I was wondering if the Endorphin Edge or Hoka ...Hi, I was wondering if the Endorphin Edge or Hoka Tecton X is stiffer in the forefoot? I have big toe arthritis so it is best to have a stiff shoe (run in Bondi X on roads). Thanks! MitchMitchell Watkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01299520726191673397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-37648443589476125322022-07-06T18:22:34.887-06:002022-07-06T18:22:34.887-06:00Anon- Have you tried anything from VJ? Our VJ Ul...Anon- Have you tried anything from VJ? Our VJ Ultra 2 review is coming soon, and its a great update. Their outsoles can typically handle everything. Mike Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981870314602171757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-43230858935899378342022-07-01T21:19:55.832-06:002022-07-01T21:19:55.832-06:00Out here in Vermont, the outsole of the Xodus Ultr...Out here in Vermont, the outsole of the Xodus Ultra does NOT handle wet rocks and roots well at all, so a shoe like this with the same outsole would scare me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-11547400234751442112022-07-01T04:22:24.664-06:002022-07-01T04:22:24.664-06:00@Anonymous
There is no Sense Ride 5, only a colorw...@Anonymous<br />There is no Sense Ride 5, only a colorway refresh<br />Nike Zegama Trail is coming 7.7.22<br />Trabuco max no info and it's late in the seasonBobcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419147808285360690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-85935070238330960862022-06-30T12:53:23.223-06:002022-06-30T12:53:23.223-06:00Hello RTR. Any word on when ASICS will be releasin...Hello RTR. Any word on when ASICS will be releasing a 2nd version of the trabuco max trail shoe? Also will Salomon be releasing a 5th version of the sense ride? And last but not least when is Nike releasing the zegama zoom x trail running shoe. ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-66668904881334797272022-06-30T10:19:11.292-06:002022-06-30T10:19:11.292-06:00Jeff V's take????Jeff V's take????<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07198774932324376108noreply@blogger.com