tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post2010911875620242571..comments2024-03-18T19:18:40.822-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Saucony Koa TR - Surprisingly Fast, Well Rounded Door to Trail Shoe for a Wide Variety of ConditionsSam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-7165201238855790482018-08-20T12:55:33.250-06:002018-08-20T12:55:33.250-06:00Anton, I have not run in both shoes (nor has Sam I...Anton, I have not run in both shoes (nor has Sam I don't think), but just based on my reading and the stats, I would have to say that the Kiger 4 is a bit more substantial. I found the KOA TR a bit on the light side for my typical rocky, technical terrain, but were great for cruising softer, more runnable trails.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-9043921130167337662018-08-20T12:22:56.383-06:002018-08-20T12:22:56.383-06:00How does the Koa TR compare to the Nike Kiger 4 wi...How does the Koa TR compare to the Nike Kiger 4 with regard to midsole cushioning?Antonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-88376489625806138322017-10-10T10:24:59.229-06:002017-10-10T10:24:59.229-06:00Thanks Jeff. I have considered the Speedgoat 2 but...Thanks Jeff. I have considered the Speedgoat 2 but still wary of that fairly narrow toe box. I have been reading some promising reviews on the Mafate Speed 2. Same grippy vibram sole with 5mm lugs and a good wide toebox and only a slight stack increase. I suffer with hot feet and my toes are really prone to blisters. Mafate could be my choice for my 50+ mile ultras, whereas the Challenger had been my trail marathon choice until my feet couldn't take anymore. Cushioning is key for the dry tracks, with some responsiveness, and with enough grip to get me through some soft grass and mud. Your review of the Brooks Caldera also caught my eye. Too many shoes!!Wes Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04438941659328895668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-74140648515108760052017-10-09T16:21:54.175-06:002017-10-09T16:21:54.175-06:00Hey Wes, the Koa is a really nice shoe with a more...Hey Wes, the Koa is a really nice shoe with a more accommodating fit, but not quite as much cushion. The durability of the outsole is much better than the Challenger as well. Xodus ISO is really nice too, but a bit heavier, better cushioned and not as quick or responsive. Depends on your usage I guess. Have you considered the Hoka Speedgoat 2?Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-26583090852821166552017-10-08T12:47:12.572-06:002017-10-08T12:47:12.572-06:00Hi - I’m looking for a replacement for my Challeng...Hi - I’m looking for a replacement for my Challenger ATR, as the toe box and breathability (version 2) got worse the more I wore them. Looking at the Koa TR and Xodus ISO 2 but really struggling to see how they differ (in their strengths and weaknesses or for what terrain they were intended for). Could also wait for the ATR 4 and see if that improves things but would really welcome your views on these two models from Saucony, many thanks Wes Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04438941659328895668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-68323923377381747402017-06-13T10:24:00.385-06:002017-06-13T10:24:00.385-06:00Thanks Ben. Yeah, the Peregrine 7 has .5mm more c...Thanks Ben. Yeah, the Peregrine 7 has .5mm more cushion, yet weigh nearly an ounce less per shoe, so seems possible they could do so with the Koa TR. The uppers have some similarities, but the Koa upper is a bit thinner, less rugged and more breathable. Of course the shape is different, but both are quite comfortable and secure.<br /><br />The PureGrit 6 works OK on the road, but the Koa TR is certainly a better door to trail shoe with the more mellow tread.<br /><br />j, unfortunately, I have not run in the Nomad, so could not compare.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-44164113714014095102017-06-13T07:38:51.368-06:002017-06-13T07:38:51.368-06:00Any thoughts on how this compares to its predecess...Any thoughts on how this compares to its predecessor, the nomad?jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09069430058423073281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-64541149528868989042017-06-09T10:58:27.405-06:002017-06-09T10:58:27.405-06:00Thanks for the review Jeff. I was looking at this ...Thanks for the review Jeff. I was looking at this shoe on Saucony's site the other day and was curious about it. Makes me wonder if they retooled the upper of the peregrine and slapped a new outsole on it. Surely they can shave off another ounce from this shoe? The comparison to the Pure Grit 6 looks like the Koa would be a better door to (light) trail option. I'm not sure the outsole of the Pure Grit 6 would ride well on the roads. The past versions that I ran in were fine in the rocky stuff, but not on pavement. At least that was my impression.Breeves2000https://www.blogger.com/profile/08452785926355236002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-10809145395449043982017-06-09T08:13:07.429-06:002017-06-09T08:13:07.429-06:00Following.Following.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.com