tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post75816565563667246..comments2024-03-28T21:52:44.835-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Review Saucony Freedom ISO-Getting to the Essence. Low Slung, Energetic, Bouncy and Smooth. Best and Most Unique New Ride of 2016? Sam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-76260623022721583672017-09-08T08:03:18.394-06:002017-09-08T08:03:18.394-06:00After 20 miles on them i feel numbness on both bal...After 20 miles on them i feel numbness on both balls of the feet!Not enough upper support of the foot even though the upper is the most comfortable i've ever tried!!!Good shoe only for walking.I prefer my supernova glide 8!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-40670466270677206742017-06-30T18:15:46.219-06:002017-06-30T18:15:46.219-06:00Thanks for the advice Sam! Went with the Escalante...Thanks for the advice Sam! Went with the Escalante and love them.<br /><br />-JohnAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09291382168793137264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-80764381880451627512017-06-26T11:48:07.419-06:002017-06-26T11:48:07.419-06:00Hi John,
Here is our Escalante review http://www.r...Hi John,<br />Here is our Escalante review http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/02/in-depth-altra-running-escalante.html. The Freedom would be fine for up to half but is fairly stiff flexing up front, has the soft Everun and can fatigue more there with more miles. The Escalante has 4mm or so more forefoot stack and is a bit firmer more stable up front and at the heel. Another to look at the Hoka Hupana which was my 2016 shoe of the year. Same class of shoe bouncy but better tamed than Freedom while a bit less stable than Escalante. http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2016/12/first-run-impressions-review-hoka-one.html<br />You really can't go wrong with any of them although for pure speed I think the Escalante may be the best of the 3 at this point for your paces and needs. This said it is zero drop, so caution in transitioning but it seems you are used to zero drop from the ReebokSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-74695115576221297742017-06-26T10:06:44.749-06:002017-06-26T10:06:44.749-06:00Thanks for your prompt reply Sam! I've been al...Thanks for your prompt reply Sam! I've been all over the map with shoes - early on when I first started running marathons I had Asics 2100 series and Brooks Adrenaline, and they were great but I'm looking for something more neutral and more on the minimalist side. Just more support than I needed with those, and also heavier than what I am looking for with this shoe. Right now all of my sprint work is coming on a pair of Cross trainers from Reebok, the Nano series, which are pretty light and also zero drop but I'd like something more dedicated to running as I'll be doing more run workouts. In terms of pace for faster workouts I'm looking to run anything between 6:00/mile for interval training and probably aiming for a 7:00/mile pace for distance up to 10k. The half marathon stuff is likely to come down the road, so may not even need that in this shoe. With all of that, sounds like you'd recommend the Escalante? I've been eyeing the Freedom - what do you mean by too thin in the forefoot? Not enough cushion? Thanks again for all of your insights!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09291382168793137264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-87288059708349743562017-06-26T06:53:44.085-06:002017-06-26T06:53:44.085-06:00HI John, Thanks for reading and writing! What have...HI John, Thanks for reading and writing! What have you liked before, and not liked? About what pace do you plan to run faster workouts and races? Of the three you mention my pick would be the Escalante and its stable versatile and very lively ride. The Zante has always been to firm for me, the Freedom is super fun to run but a bit thin in the forefoot and for me somewhat unstable in the heel. Another to consider the upcoming Saucony Zealot ISO 3. Our first impressions article here http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/05/saucony-zealot-iso-3-first-run.html full review later this week. Lively, soft, and light at 8.6 it is more forgiving than the others you mention and would be a good/better half shoe.<br />Sam. Editor<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run.! You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews. Shopping through links on articles help support RoadTrail Run and is much appreciated. <br /> <br />Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-63736625586177836662017-06-25T16:39:47.737-06:002017-06-25T16:39:47.737-06:00Thanks for all of your comprehensive reviews, this...Thanks for all of your comprehensive reviews, this is awesome.<br /><br />I'm returning to running after a brief hiatus - have been doing a lot of gym work and cross training, so I'm in pretty decent shape but only starting to work my way back into running shape.<br /><br />Anyways, I am looking for something pretty versatile, that I can use both for speedwork and for runs up to (potentially) half-marathon distance, although day-to-day will probably be combination of speed work and distance of up to 5 miles.<br /><br />Right now I'm looking at the Saucony Freedom ISO, NB Zante v3, and the Altra Escalante. Recommendations on which of these would best fit what I'm looking to do? Thanks in advance for taking the time to share!<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09291382168793137264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-17596313920747628562017-06-06T08:04:34.149-06:002017-06-06T08:04:34.149-06:00Sorry for the delay in responding. I did try them ...Sorry for the delay in responding. I did try them briefly in the shop and they seem to fit well and very comfortable. I was very tempted but they were very expensive, so will think about it. Hopefully the price will drop.<br />I wear insoles, and wondering whether that will help with the drop. The insoles I use are about 4-5 mm higher at the heel than the front, would that help as I am use to a 8-10mm drop?<br />Did you find the freedoms softer than the saucony triumph iso 3's to run in and as cushioned? I did compare them with the Nike vomero 12's and they seemed more like the triumphs in weight and bulk and I think the triumphs would be more responsive than the Nikes? (Your thoughts) Thanks Sam for your inputAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-11257436916526531422017-05-27T07:30:58.227-06:002017-05-27T07:30:58.227-06:00Hi Anonymous, Given the Everun is quite soft and t...Hi Anonymous, Given the Everun is quite soft and the heel toe drop quite low and the outsole rubber while fine relatively soft if you are a heel striker, as I am, you will notice some bottoming out, not in the sense of lack of cushion but heel feel low. The lack of a real heel counter contributes to the heel being a bit low and hard to tame if a heel striker. The forefoot pain for me only occurred a bit during longer runs. Again because of the relatively soft cushion and long flexing outsole some may get tired feet up front. Hope this helps!<br />Sam, EditorSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-32362123952043174242017-05-26T20:14:05.774-06:002017-05-26T20:14:05.774-06:00Hi Sam, thanks for the reply and the options. Its ...Hi Sam, thanks for the reply and the options. Its mentioned that the saucony freedom bottoms out, what do you mean? Is that common occurance or a problem. Also its mentioned in review forefoot pain after 8 miles? Why is that - not enough cushioning or too firm etc? Does it have enough heel support, thanks again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-67947465408667925582017-05-26T08:04:44.025-06:002017-05-26T08:04:44.025-06:00Hi Anonymous, Thanks for inquiring. It could be a ...Hi Anonymous, Thanks for inquiring. It could be a good supplementary shoe to the Triumph IS0 3 but... the 4mm drop of the Freedom runs even lower for me as also a heel striker. It is a super fun shoe to run but soft and bouncy. You might also look at the upcoming Saucony Zealot 3 see my first impressions here. More rubber at the heel less bottoming out. And light. http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/05/saucony-zealot-iso-3-first-run.html If you want to have a bit more drop and a lively shoe the Saucony Ride 10 is a great choice as well. Closer to the Triumph overall but a much more dynamic trainer. Review here http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/03/saucony-ride-10-review-what-daily.html<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run.! You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews, Sam, EditorSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-8450466421461942242017-05-26T07:50:22.217-06:002017-05-26T07:50:22.217-06:00Hi, Just wondering if the saucony freedom is a goo...Hi, Just wondering if the saucony freedom is a good supplementary shoe to run in with the saucony triumph iso 3. I am a heel striker and use to a 10mm or 8 mm drop would the 4mm drop be to much? Is it okay for heel strikers? Is it a softer or firmer shoe to run in than the triumph and just as comfortable? What are the main difference between the two shoes. Thanks in advance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-22158262075872937122016-12-24T09:46:57.975-07:002016-12-24T09:46:57.975-07:00Thanks for your reply! In regards to injuries, I ...Thanks for your reply! In regards to injuries, I have dealt with knee issues in the past and have most recently been recovering from hip/pelvic/groin pain. I TYPICALLY do not have lower or foot issues, (other than blisters, etc.)...do you have any recommendations of shoes I might want to try instead of the Freedoms? I do like a bit of a lower drop as I typically walk/jog more mid to forefoot. I just wish I could find something light, yet cushioned..thanks!Keep_Moving09https://www.blogger.com/profile/00032026310170295794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-51073134613213592742016-12-23T15:06:53.982-07:002016-12-23T15:06:53.982-07:00Hi Keep_Moving09, Thanks for reading RoadTrailRun!...Hi Keep_Moving09, Thanks for reading RoadTrailRun! I would say no real comparison between the 2 except both have ISO and even there the ISO in Freedom is far more minimal and as one with the upper. The wrap at midfoot is excellent but... there is also no real heel counter and no overlays at mid foot so a much more "natural" seamless fit and a less supportive overall fit. The ride is very different I found Zealot 1 and to a lesser extent 2 firm especially in the heel. Freedom is considerably softer with that Everun TPU bounce. For me as a heel striker it almost feels lower than its 4mm drop. What kind of injuries have you had? I think the Freedom is most suitable for someone with efficient form and likely no big issues in the feet or ankles. Compared to Triumph ISO and Zealot 1 or 2 a much livelier funner ride in the Freedom but one that requires some taming. Hope this helps. Sam, EditorSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-19205994672055359692016-12-23T14:57:48.437-07:002016-12-23T14:57:48.437-07:00Great review! How would the Freedom ISO's com...Great review! How would the Freedom ISO's compare to the Zealot's? I liked the original Zealots a bit more than the 2's...as well as the original Triumph ISO's. It seems like Saucony has made everything more narrow in the forefoot and I've had to do the lace lock technique with the newer versions of their shoes...which cause some discomfort. I am looking for a 4mm drop shoe that is lightweight yet cushioned...I am an injury prone runner, but typically feel most comfortable in neutral shoes. Any insight is appreciated! Keep_Moving09https://www.blogger.com/profile/00032026310170295794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-62865900683073209602016-12-21T22:47:03.093-07:002016-12-21T22:47:03.093-07:00Any suggestions when compared to the dynaflytes?Any suggestions when compared to the dynaflytes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-68879002815602464782016-12-16T19:20:30.732-07:002016-12-16T19:20:30.732-07:00Sam, thank you so much for responding so quickly a...Sam, thank you so much for responding so quickly and for the recommendations. Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-31604533896712131552016-12-13T07:25:52.423-07:002016-12-13T07:25:52.423-07:00Hi Anonymous, If you are coming from the Zante v1 ...Hi Anonymous, If you are coming from the Zante v1 you will find the Freedom softer more energetic and better cushioned. It is relatively stiff towards the front, see review details, so we saw some forefoot pain on longer runs likely due to this.The upper is excellent although relatively unstructured compared to Zante so foot support is a bit less, is more "natural" and puts a priority on good form. I used the Energy Boost for several years and ran multiple marathons in them. The new Boston 6 not quite the cushion of the Energy is a fabulous lighter trainer racer you might also consider. The upcoming Brooks Launch 4 or Pegasus 33 might also fit the bill. If you want something similar to Zante with a touch more cushion the Salming Distance D4 might also be considered. Reviews for all of the above, except Pegasus (coming soon) at the link here<br />http://www.roadtrailrun.com/p/blog-page.html<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run. We are also on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. SamSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-70983984428593498932016-12-12T19:12:30.452-07:002016-12-12T19:12:30.452-07:00Thanks for such an in-depth review. I've been ...Thanks for such an in-depth review. I've been running exclusively in the women's Zante v1 for a while but as my mileage has increased due to marathon training, I think my feet need a bit more support. Do you think the Freedom is a good alternative and could support marathon training? I prefer lightweight running shoes. I used the Energy Boost last year for marathon training and found it cushiony but way too heavy in the heel. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com