tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post5900429268958126510..comments2024-03-29T08:31:12.427-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Review: Hoka One One Huaka- It's Here... a Fast, Flexible, Light,
Responsive HokaSam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-19592625420003439322014-08-22T12:20:34.177-06:002014-08-22T12:20:34.177-06:00So grateful for the great insight. Thank you. No ...So grateful for the great insight. Thank you. No improvement after 4 runs in the Conquest. My local running store was great in enabling me to exchange for the Cliftons. LOVE the Cliftons -- super light. I ran in them for first time yesterday and wasn't sure if it was the shoes or just my excitement for the Cliftons, but I ran a PR for a 5K.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06891881129178491473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-80637964208025760582014-08-14T16:47:58.869-06:002014-08-14T16:47:58.869-06:00One more thing on Clifton, my wife sized down half...One more thing on Clifton, my wife sized down half a size. On Huaka she sized down half a size likely due to goofy speed laces. I was true to size and cut the speed laces off and put a bit thicker insole and was fine at true to size.<br />Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-63497473956146335582014-08-14T16:34:34.345-06:002014-08-14T16:34:34.345-06:00Feet numb might be because they are fairly stiff a...Feet numb might be because they are fairly stiff and may take some getting used to rocker effect. Another potential issue and one that my daughter had moving to Brooks Ghosts from a firm pair Mizuno Wave Riders is that soft may not work for you as she needs more stability due to a high stiff arch, she was a dancer for years. The Huaka is firmer and thus might helpwith the numb feet issue. My wife just got Clifton today and I tried a pair on. Very nice shoe and super light. I think the Huaka as it is a bit firmer is a bit higher performance and can serve as a smoother trail hybrid better than Clifton but if you run roads you likely would really like the Clifton too understanding that its softness compared to Huaka may be an issue. I tried the Clifton on t he store treadmill and they were definitely softer especially in the forefoot than the Huaka. Don't get me wrong the Huaka really cushion road shock incredibly well but not in a mushy soft way IMO. Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-22603969791946408372014-08-14T11:53:51.249-06:002014-08-14T11:53:51.249-06:00Thanks so much Sam for the thoughtful reply. I en...Thanks so much Sam for the thoughtful reply. I ended up getting the Conquest because my local running store did not carry the Huaka. I've run in Conquest twice -- first time both feet went numb -- from ball of foot to toes (even stopped half way through run to loosen shoe) and the second time just my right foot went numb. Called Hoka and they said that it takes time to "break in" which I was surprised to hear given today's materials. I'm likely going to return them and see if the store can special order me a pair of Huaka as that I really do want to like Hoka. But before I do so, is there a "break in" period? Or perhaps it's because I'm transitioning from Nike Pegasus which has more of drop? Again, thankful for any guidance you can provide.<br />Best<br />BonnieAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06891881129178491473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-53634156563075068652014-08-14T11:45:56.582-06:002014-08-14T11:45:56.582-06:00Holip, hoping to get a pair of Clifton soon. I tri...Holip, hoping to get a pair of Clifton soon. I tried the Fresh Foam 980 Road and they were OK but not for me. Too firm and stiff, not super lively. Trail 980 different story and after seeing think V2 of Fresh Foam will be far better. Never looked at Conquest. To much shoe as I felt that much RMAT would be to stiff and dead feeling. Huakas are firm but also super lively and flexible although 25 mm of forefoot while flexible is not exactly close road feel! If your road runs are hilly ideal shoe. Also very good trail shoe if not to muddy or super rocky. As of right now Huaka my "shoe of the year" for both road and trail. Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-3078485839542890332014-08-14T10:24:35.288-06:002014-08-14T10:24:35.288-06:00Hi Sam, great post as always. Once you have a chan...Hi Sam, great post as always. Once you have a chance to try the Clifton, if you have to choose between Huaka and Cifton, can you share which one you'll choose and why? I tried walking around in the Conquest in a store, and the firmness didn't do it for me (reminds me of NB fresh foam 980). I read somewhere that the Conquest midsole also has RMAT in it (thus my reluctance with the Clifton). ThanksHShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12766658781701214920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-39475221291321176762014-08-11T14:58:32.620-06:002014-08-11T14:58:32.620-06:00Have run in the Rapa Nui and Huaka, not yet the Cl...Have run in the Rapa Nui and Huaka, not yet the Clifton. Prefer Huaka by far to Rapa Nui. More stable esp. forefoot on trails, more responsive, lighter, firmer. I am pretty sure that while I will like the Clifton I will still prefer the Huaka as I like good cushion but not soft cushion. Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-83893967277887110702014-08-11T13:08:53.340-06:002014-08-11T13:08:53.340-06:00Thnx for the update having run in the Rapa Nui, Cl...Thnx for the update having run in the Rapa Nui, Clifton and Huaka which one do you prefer? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18445459661533136727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-65668526852894963782014-08-10T17:29:47.261-06:002014-08-10T17:29:47.261-06:00Yes Bonnie weight is a big difference between Con...Yes Bonnie weight is a big difference between Conquest and Huaka. Associated closely with weight is the stack height and heel toe drop. The Conquest is 29 mm heel 25 mm forefoot, 4mm drop. The Huaka are 27mm heel 25mm forefoot, 2 mm drop yet despite being similar including same super RMAT midsole Huaka for women 8 are 7.8 oz vs 10.3 for Conquest. A good part of difference I assume is lighter upper on Huaka as well as carve outs in midsole which also make Huaka far more flexible. No contest. I did not even consider Conquest and have been absolutely delighted with my Huaka. My current shoe of the year for BOTH road and trail. A superb Hybrid. Clifton another alternative What Nikes do you run in now?Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-17041789975978790232014-08-10T17:29:37.257-06:002014-08-10T17:29:37.257-06:00Yes Bonnie weight is a big difference between Con...Yes Bonnie weight is a big difference between Conquest and Huaka. Associated closely with weight is the stack height and heel toe drop. The Conquest is 29 mm heel 25 mm forefoot, 4mm drop. The Huaka are 27mm heel 25mm forefoot, 2 mm drop yet despite being similar including same super RMAT midsole Huaka for women 8 are 7.8 oz vs 10.3 for Conquest. A good part of difference I assume is lighter upper on Huaka as well as carve outs in midsole which also make Huaka far more flexible. No contest. I did not even consider Conquest and have been absolutely delighted with my Huaka. My current shoe of the year for BOTH road and trail. A superb Hybrid. Clifton another alternative What Nikes do you run in now?Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-60987855141656870472014-08-10T16:50:51.794-06:002014-08-10T16:50:51.794-06:00Thanks for the review. I am new to Hokas and tryi...Thanks for the review. I am new to Hokas and trying to decide between the conquest and huaka used primarily be for training and half marathons -- I don't have "race" shoes. Is the primary difference between the two just weight? I'm 5'3, 125 lbs and run 20-25 miles per week and switching from Nikes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06891881129178491473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-47298311687645118582014-07-29T10:17:14.424-06:002014-07-29T10:17:14.424-06:00Kathy I have only run the Huaka to date but am see...Kathy I have only run the Huaka to date but am seeing comments from folks who have run both. Clifton is a softer feel. The Huaka is firm but that is really a relative term as they are a true Hoka, very little road shock... yet they are far more responsive than any of the other Hokas I have run in and flexible and of course much lighter. I have now run a downhill road half, a dirt road half, many miles or road, both somewhat technical and smooth trails and they handle everything brilliantly and I was fast too! What are you running in now and what is your goal time? Do you also run some trails?Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-38220534209587550432014-07-21T12:11:09.716-06:002014-07-21T12:11:09.716-06:00@ Harris: I am currently trying to decide between...@ Harris: I am currently trying to decide between the Huaka & Clifton to train for and run an upcoming 1/2 marathon -- which would you recommend?Kathynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-69588530424228652912014-06-30T21:45:24.217-06:002014-06-30T21:45:24.217-06:00Sam could not get the Kinvara to work for me too n...Sam could not get the Kinvara to work for me too narrow in the forefoot and the shoe just felt weird. You need to try the Clifton a great road shoe very light weight. Bret Rivers ran in the prototype trail version for the Western States 100 (he came in 9th). Looks like a great shoe that I cannot wait to try.harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12744366490754491869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-75014085021673379552014-06-30T08:39:47.901-06:002014-06-30T08:39:47.901-06:00Thanks Harris. It is one great shoe. I have not be...Thanks Harris. It is one great shoe. I have not been on trails yet with them, saving them for smoother UT trails when I get out there. I put a thicker insole in mine from GoRun Ultra, production pairs will have a thicker one and this improved heel fit as did installing normal laces. Have you run in Kinvara lately? It's been a while for me but the Huaka while a bit heavier seems more cushioned,more stable, yet also more responsive especially in the forefoot where I have found the Kinvara kind of mushy unstable upfront. Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-20252604849866609672014-06-29T21:39:05.256-06:002014-06-29T21:39:05.256-06:00Sam got a chance to do some trail runs with these ...Sam got a chance to do some trail runs with these shoes (10 and 6 milers) and was very happy with the performance on the trails both going up and going down and it had great traction. The road ride was smooth and real nice. I was amazed as to how fast I was going and it just didn't feel like it. Agree with you Sam on the feel of the Ultra vs the Huaka. You also nailed the feel of the fit as well. I wear 11.5 in all HOKAs and in this shoe as well. I use the lighter Clifton for speed work. This is a great shoe and a game changer for HOKA.harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12744366490754491869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-54953322118005262014-06-23T18:09:04.272-06:002014-06-23T18:09:04.272-06:00Great question Rod as I like the Ultra a lot and i...Great question Rod as I like the Ultra a lot and in fact am doing wear testing on future versions. Ultra is somewhat softer in the heel due in part to the Ultra having a midsole that is the outsole; a bit firmer, thinner and more flexible in the forefoot. Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-69624373035874318112014-06-23T16:16:15.880-06:002014-06-23T16:16:15.880-06:00How does the cushion and responsiveness compare to...How does the cushion and responsiveness compare to the Skechers GoRun Ultra?Rodnoreply@blogger.com