tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post5168078297858100750..comments2024-03-28T06:26:26.652-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: First Run Review-Hoka One One Bondi-B "Maximalist" Natural Running ShoeSam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-70040522090736714472013-03-15T11:55:35.422-06:002013-03-15T11:55:35.422-06:00Hi Ken,
Wow you have done a lot in 14 months. Like...Hi Ken,<br />Wow you have done a lot in 14 months. Likely you are starting to have issues as aerobic capacity comes first then muscles, tendons, and bones build up. During that time at least 3 years injuries can occur in the progression above. My friend Ed Knapp has written about this on his blog www.runskiride.blogspot.com. As far as the Hokas the weights are confusing as I think Hoka bases its weight on UK sizes which are smaller than US comparable sizes. I usually get my weights from Running Warehouse as they are consistent. I have run in the original Bondi and the Tarmac and much prefer the Tarmac although I think the Bondi has changed for the better. I found Hokas, at least for me, are good for recovery and slow runs. At speed I have a hard time getting the knee drive from the rocker sole when tired. You need some strength to run them fast. I am really liking the Adidas Boosts these days. Almost Hoka like in their cushioning yet very responsive and fast. the 10mm drop is a bit to much but I also believe that in later stages of a marathon you need the heel lift help. I also train in Altras zero drop along with the Hokas. I think some zero drop is very important but also believe it has to be cushioned. The super minimal is a asking for injuries. <br />Thanks for reading my blog!Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-25265845933980581192013-03-13T14:48:33.489-06:002013-03-13T14:48:33.489-06:00Sam,
I am a beginning runner (14 months no prior ...Sam,<br /><br />I am a beginning runner (14 months no prior training) - with 7 half and 3 full marathons done (many told me too fast too soon - but I was standing all day working in sweatshops when I was a kid so my feet can take some pounding). I went to a running shoe and they fitted me with Brooks and New Balance shoes for over pronate. I ran with them but it was hurting my knees. I switch to Saucony Kinvara 3 on my last marathon and got PR and my knees did not hurt as much. Last week I brought a pair of Bondi Speed 2 because an ultra marathon run told me about it. I did some research on the internet and found out that the Stinson Evo Tarmac is about one once lighter and has more crushing - is this true? My Hoka Bondi S2 is a US8 and I and the weighted left shoe is 11.9 ounce; right shoe 11.3 ounce. My shoe is way out of Hoka's claim of 9.5 ounce on their website and 10 ounce for size 9 on thetrishop website. Should I contact Hoka? Since you have run in both of these styles Bondi S2 and Tarmac - what do you recommend between the two? I like what you said about the Bondi when your feet get heavy on the couple of last miles and a more than 4mm gradient is better. Please advice - Ken<br />Ken_Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13306431385113323369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-9333371383847506092012-08-03T08:29:40.267-06:002012-08-03T08:29:40.267-06:00Nick, I am a size 9 in Brooks Pure Flow and they f...Nick, I am a size 9 in Brooks Pure Flow and they fit me just right. Thanks for reading my blog. Was at the Outdoor Retailer Show and will have posts on all the goodies I found in next few days.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-89906399998751188662012-08-01T10:33:28.184-06:002012-08-01T10:33:28.184-06:00Ah excellent! That really helps. I'm in betwee...Ah excellent! That really helps. I'm in between sizes so just trying to get a perspective. Thanks again.Nick Bradleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761105798842448676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-51196928162113106002012-08-01T08:39:28.496-06:002012-08-01T08:39:28.496-06:00Nick, they gave me a size 9 as that is what they h...Nick, they gave me a size 9 as that is what they had. They are a half size to big for me. I usually wear 8.5 but was in 9 maybe 9.5 in previous Hokas. Note I have heard that they provide a second thinner insole which can be used to reduce volume by stacking on top of the thicker one or remove thick one and use thin one to get a bit more room. At least that is what I have heard as my test pair's box only had one insole. On Pure Flow let me check my size when I get home. Last month or so been in Kinvara 3, similar shoe to Pure Flow and much improved over the sloppy KInvara 1Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-80769338977481024852012-08-01T07:26:09.880-06:002012-08-01T07:26:09.880-06:00Thanks for the quick response Sam. Great blog by t...Thanks for the quick response Sam. Great blog by the way! I look forward to seeing your review of the Evo Tarmac.<br /><br />One last question, I see you wear the Brooks Flow ... one of my favourites as well. What US size do you wear in these? And what size did you get in the Evo Tarmac?<br /><br />NickNick Bradleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761105798842448676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-22832487016428836022012-08-01T05:48:04.641-06:002012-08-01T05:48:04.641-06:00Hi Nick,
Can't say for all models but just thi...Hi Nick,<br />Can't say for all models but just this week am testing the new Hoka Stinson B EVO Tarmac. It fits true to size for me whereas before I sized up Hokas. I am writing a first review later today. Great shoe The EVO with a road sole. Also a 6 mm heel toe drop which in my view is good as the previous 4mm in the Bondi caused me problems when very tired in long races, got way back on the heels into all that soft foam.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-83567120985168911622012-08-01T02:24:21.697-06:002012-08-01T02:24:21.697-06:00Hi Sam, I realise this review is from 2011 but jus...Hi Sam, I realise this review is from 2011 but just curious whether you still recommend sizing up in the new 2012 Bondi B's? I hear Hoka have 'fixed' their sizing this year.<br /><br />I wear a US 11.5 in Brooks (Flow) and want the equivalent size in both the Bondi and the Evo. I'm also generally a US 11.5 in Salomon (Speedcross 3). Any thoughts?<br /><br />Thanks!<br />NickNick Bradleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761105798842448676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-78187025201293555582011-08-31T12:09:43.546-06:002011-08-31T12:09:43.546-06:00Sorry not to reply eariler Anonymous. I have been ...Sorry not to reply eariler Anonymous. I have been running in the Hoka Stinson Combi XT for a month or so. Excellent on both road and trail and I prefer to Bondi or Mafate. Bondi because it turns out the rocker geometry is different than Mafate and not good for me on long road runs I much prefer the Stinson upper to Mafate as the upper is lighter and less stiff, The sole really works well on both trail and road and looks like it will wear far better than the Bondi's soft EVA. See some info here at my Outdoor Retailer post here:<br />http://samwinebaum.blogspot.com/2011/08/outdoor-retailer-summer-2011-hoka-one.htmlSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-72032263742644233832011-07-20T23:16:30.523-06:002011-07-20T23:16:30.523-06:00What about the combo xt? Bondi B with the Mafate s...What about the combo xt? Bondi B with the Mafate sole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-82086014003082875352011-07-10T14:26:08.547-06:002011-07-10T14:26:08.547-06:00Nice review on those Bondi B. Since you seem to kn...Nice review on those Bondi B. Since you seem to know both Bondi and Mafate, which ones would you choose to run low distance ''trails'', typically by the sea on sand, stones and grass. I initially planned to elect the Mafate but they might be a better pick for long mountain trails...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com