tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post3653426419856890277..comments2024-03-28T01:00:21.447-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: Hoka One One Speedgoat 2 Review - Completely Revamped, Hoka Nailed It!Sam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-4323483967665567782018-10-09T20:08:02.276-06:002018-10-09T20:08:02.276-06:00The SG2 is more pillowy soft where the N3 is more ...The SG2 is more pillowy soft where the N3 is more firm. Despite the extra stack of the SG2, I find them to be very stable and overall a lighter, quicker shoe than the N3. Some may find the SG2 a bit narrowly tapered in the forefoot, I didn't really, except during my A race last year, the Pikes Peak Marathon, where they were pinching my foot unbearably, but has not been an issue since (or before). The N3 definitely had a better upper with more accommodating forefoot, perhaps better outsole durability as well, but SG2 outsole is still very good. If the SG2 fits, you would probably like it (I know several die hard N3 users who have converted to SG2 with general satisfaction). Thanks for reading.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-82575484396562097822018-10-09T19:39:20.504-06:002018-10-09T19:39:20.504-06:00Hi Jeff,
How does the SG2 compare to the defunct ...Hi Jeff,<br /><br />How does the SG2 compare to the defunct PI Trail N3 (RIP) which has been my all-time favorite ultra distance trail shoe. The N3 had the perfect combination of fit, cushion, stability and drop for me. On paper, the SG2 specs appear to be similar, albeit with a bit more stack height, which leads me to concerns with stability and rolling ankles. For a "maximal" shoe, I never had any issues with rolling ankles in the N3's.<br /><br />Thanks for all the great reviews!talen316https://www.blogger.com/profile/01802730035236443169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-86610922410973184012017-10-30T09:31:41.057-06:002017-10-30T09:31:41.057-06:00Thank you very much for your quick reply!
Thank you very much for your quick reply!<br />Alexandre Gonçalvceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09952971657923112139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-18107134659923506982017-10-27T15:23:45.809-06:002017-10-27T15:23:45.809-06:00Hi Alexandre, my foot measures 10 5/8 inches and t...Hi Alexandre, my foot measures 10 5/8 inches and the 10 is great for me, I definitely would not want to go up or down.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-43336950362673031292017-10-27T14:07:53.650-06:002017-10-27T14:07:53.650-06:00Hello there.
I saw you had a 10 us size shoe. I us...Hello there.<br />I saw you had a 10 us size shoe. I usually wear 10 us / 44 Eur.<br />Can you tell me what is the length of your feet? <br />Mine is 27 cm = 10.6 inches, but it seems a little bit large when I tried SG1 in US10<br /><br />ThanksAlexandre Gonçalvceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09952971657923112139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-91451924307262617602017-08-21T18:00:24.786-06:002017-08-21T18:00:24.786-06:00The Huaka was/is one of my favorites as well. The...The Huaka was/is one of my favorites as well. The SG2 has a higher stack and not quite as nimble as the Huaka, but is certainly better for long distances on trails. SG2 on shares name with SG1, completely a new shoe and I have not had any arch issues.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-67007401584161993072017-08-21T01:14:32.571-06:002017-08-21T01:14:32.571-06:00Fantastic review. Thank you. I used to run Huaka t...Fantastic review. Thank you. I used to run Huaka that is my favourite shoes for "door to trail". How SG2 compare to Huaka ? I am asking since I had serious arch support problem with SG1. I had to give up on this shoes, but Huaka works for me. I would like to upgrade to SG2 but I am worried about arch problems fromSG1. Thank you Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03144354066517601497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-273901719834522302017-07-26T12:55:01.215-06:002017-07-26T12:55:01.215-06:00Excellent grip although it needs some improvements...Excellent grip although it needs some improvements. The tongue slips outwards and doesn't stay in place, the toebox needs to be wider.Σπύροςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04458499979955678552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-25646666469172671652017-06-22T09:18:47.245-06:002017-06-22T09:18:47.245-06:00The Speedgoat 2 feels a little smaller then the Sp...The Speedgoat 2 feels a little smaller then the Speedgoat 1. I never had to go up a .5 size for any Hoka shoe, but the Speedgoat 2 (size 10) wore a whole/blister in my heel the first 50 miler I ran in. Try them on first, nice ride though.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03462268395652125065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-88626362299122180582017-06-13T16:44:06.718-06:002017-06-13T16:44:06.718-06:00I would say the arch in the SG2 is moderate at mos...I would say the arch in the SG2 is moderate at most, in that it is not flat, yet not overly pronounced. I don't recall the arch in the SG1 for comparison, as I was way too preoccupied with pinky toe blisters and trying to stay on top of the shoe. Perhaps Sam could better compare?Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-38845406415633422912017-06-13T16:35:09.901-06:002017-06-13T16:35:09.901-06:00Hi, Thanks for the article.
I tried the Speedgoat...Hi, Thanks for the article. <br />I tried the Speedgoat 1 and I found the bow arch support very painful (I have flat feet), as opposed to Mafate 2 and Arahi, that I use daily and find very well. Do you think the new speedgoat has the same kind of support as the old one or much similar to Mafate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-81641654281940858582017-06-11T12:27:23.016-06:002017-06-11T12:27:23.016-06:00Hi Jeff, Thanks for your update on the Speedgoat 2...Hi Jeff, Thanks for your update on the Speedgoat 2. The Whites are the ultimate test for a trail running shoe! I found the SG1 to have very poor under arch support. So much so I had to swap insole for a more substantial one, Energy Boost to keep my foot from rotating. Another shoe you might look at... the Salomon Pro Max, their first in the super cushioned class and might be an excellent choice for the Whites. A touch lower profile lug age than Speedgoat but still Salomon excellent wet Contagrip. Very supportive and appears durable upper. See here http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/04/salomon-sense-pro-max-review-versatile.html<br />Sam. Editor<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run.! You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews. Shopping through links on articles help support RoadTrail Run and is much appreciated. <br /><br />Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-11055657429841466722017-06-10T10:08:54.885-06:002017-06-10T10:08:54.885-06:00Initial thoughts doing the Hoka 30 day challenge w...Initial thoughts doing the Hoka 30 day challenge with the new Speedgoat 2<br />I measure an 11 on the nose so went with the 11.5 which was the correct choice....maybe.<br />Have run about 20 miles so far and here we go, I feel the toe box is still to snug. An improvement over the previous Speedgoat but I feel it should be even wider, more rounded, and less pointy.<br />Just to clarify I have a narrow heel and ankle, neutral arch and instep, and a wide forefoot (makes buying ski boots tough). My forefoot measures 104mm across at the widest point for reference.<br />My current shoe is a Pearl Izumi EM Trail N3 which has a very nice toe box but I am looking for a max cushioned shoe with fantastic grip for running some big miles in very technical terrain (White Mountains).<br />My only other complaint which is easily solved is the insole really lacks any arch support. The previous Speedgoat may have had to much support under the arch for some but it was one of the few shoes I've used not requiring the use of my Sole footbeds (which I highly recommend). So as I put more miles on these ill be using my foot beds. Not a big deal at all complaint wise.<br />Rest of the shoe I LOVE. Wraps foot beautifully like second skin, my narrow heel does not slip or move even with laces just moderately snug and traction with 5mm lugs and Vibram Megagrip is phenomenal. This is crucial to me personally and when you put your foot down its gonna stick. It's my #1 requirement. Running technical terrain is difficult enough without having to think about every step is my foot gonna slip. In this regard the Altra Lone Peak 3 (and now 3.5) was a failure in the Whites for me. Constant slips.<br />I REALLY like the shoe otherwise and I CAN run in it but for how long I'm not sure with the still narrow for me toe box. I may actually try a size 12, a full size up to see if that help. I will put on as many miles as I can in my 30 day challenge on these 11.5's but they will go back.<br />In the mean time I've ordered a pair of the new improved Altra Olympus 2.5's which is max cushion and also has the Vibram Megagrip compound and obviously the big toe box. How they will fare in technical terrain will be interesting but it just might be my new hiking shoe.<br />Will update this in a few weeks hopefully.<br /><br />Jeff in MAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-91396700575910321912017-06-02T04:45:34.947-06:002017-06-02T04:45:34.947-06:00Shoes are now available on the Hoka site with free...Shoes are now available on the Hoka site with free 2 day shipping through 6/4. Some nice colors I hadn't seen in previews.<br /><br />Ordered up a pair for their 30 day challenge. Fingers crossed its "the one" as I've been very eagerly waiting for this shoe.<br /><br />Jeff in MAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-24956684141133355832017-04-28T08:21:50.133-06:002017-04-28T08:21:50.133-06:00Hey Kurt, yep, absolutely fixed, the 2nd version i...Hey Kurt, yep, absolutely fixed, the 2nd version is a different shoe entirely, I highly recommend!Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-85979801103306092482017-04-28T07:50:15.955-06:002017-04-28T07:50:15.955-06:00i tried the 1st Speedgoat. they "chassis"...i tried the 1st Speedgoat. they "chassis" was really odd and my foot didnt feel as if it "sat down into the shoe" has this been fixed? (as an FYI the speed instinct fits me perfect)Kurt Perhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00110597151188900084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-4566517056288416032017-04-24T12:03:43.785-06:002017-04-24T12:03:43.785-06:00Hey Jeff, though I am from NH, I have not run the ...Hey Jeff, though I am from NH, I have not run the Pemi loop (I left there before I began really trail running as I do now). I think the S Lab Ultra would be a great shoe though for just about anything, particularly good in the wet, great control, so stable on rocks, roots etc... I suspect the SG2 would be good too. Sam covered everything else well. Not familiar with the Mafate Speed 2 really, just have seen some on a friend who is sponsored by Hoka, but I don't think they are as light and agile as the SG2.<br /><br />Jon, the platform of the SG2 is much wider, but the actual upper has a more precise fit, perhaps not any more narrow, but the materials/overlays are more structured and there is less vertical volume in the SG2.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-23146008916450254202017-04-24T11:54:29.786-06:002017-04-24T11:54:29.786-06:00Thanks for the detailed and thorough review, Jeff....Thanks for the detailed and thorough review, Jeff. You wrote the "...Speedgoat 2 has a more precise fitting and structured upper that some might find slightly less roomy than the Challenger 3..." although your side-by-side photo shows the Speedgoat 2 to be significantly wider. Which shoe has a wider forefoot?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12170597708491887429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-17699131858982139232017-04-24T08:13:53.798-06:002017-04-24T08:13:53.798-06:00Hi Jeff, Thanks for commenting. I have not run the...Hi Jeff, Thanks for commenting. I have not run the SpeedGoat 2 but did the SpeedGoat 1. I found that without changing out the stock insole the SG1 was not great on technical trails, agreeing with Jeff although loved the ride and grip. Front of the foot tended to rotated as upper didn't hold it well as mid foot on rougher trails. I could see how the Tor Mid might resolve some of those issues. Did you run them there as well? The only shoe in recent years I would dare run the Whites in that isn't a boot, the S-Lab Wings. From Jeff review's I am betting the SG2 will be a very good lighter option for the Whites. As to why no Mafate Speed 2 in the US not sure, maybe a question of focusing on shelf space at retail for a more limited range in the US? It was the same story with the great Huaka, A version 2 was available in Europe well after v1 disappeared here. As to how RoadTrailRun gets early samples. We work hard at it and try to deliver the earliest in-depth reviews on key models from many brands. We go way back with Hoka. I wrote about the original Mafate after taking them trekking around the Mt Blanc. The locals thought I was crazy not to be in boots!<br />Thanks for reading Road Trail Run.! You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where we publish interesting run related content more frequently as well as links to our latest reviews, Sam, Editor<br />Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-89152795380574642972017-04-24T07:57:52.007-06:002017-04-24T07:57:52.007-06:00So something interesting I stumbled upon. Hoka Maf...So something interesting I stumbled upon. Hoka Mafate Speed 2 which for some reason is not available in the US.<br />How does this shoe compare to the new Speedgoat 2 and why isn't it available in the US. Easily ordered from Europe though.<br /><br />http://www.runningwarehouse.eu/HOKA_ONE_ONE_Mafate_Speed_2/descpage-HMS2M1.html<br /><br />Jeff in MAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-64165404817023529732017-04-22T16:58:49.792-06:002017-04-22T16:58:49.792-06:00I've been eagerly waiting for this shoe. It wa...I've been eagerly waiting for this shoe. It was supposed to be July before it was available so how in the world did you land a pair? So jealous but sooooo happy to see the really positive review. You never know with a completely new revamp. I tested the Tor Speed 2 Mid which is the really the Speedgoat 1 in a mid version. Loved the shoe actually hiking in the White Mountains except for the very narrow toe box. The grip was off the charts good enabling me to do stupid stuff. And yes it had a pronounced arch which I personally loved. 1st shoe I haven't needed an aftermarket footbed with. Cushion was exceptional and really a mid you could run in. Very rare.<br /><br />So I have a Salomon S-Lab Ultra ordered for training and will go with that until this Speedgoat becomes available. I've got a date to run the 32 mile, 10,000 foot elevation gain Pemigewasset Loop in the White mountains to celebrate my 60th birthday in July. How do you think this shoe will handle that type of technical terrain and compared to the Salomon Ultra also in that environment.<br /><br />Jeez, June is to far away but the Salomon will be great I'm sure.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Jeff in MAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-52824027365622624172017-04-21T16:56:56.152-06:002017-04-21T16:56:56.152-06:00Great review, as always. I'm encouraged to hea...Great review, as always. I'm encouraged to hear that it has a locked in fit. I'm still leaning towards the Salomon Ultra since I have such narrow feet but this does sound like a great 100 mile shoe option. Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00176295383101403940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-12830077355255656762017-04-21T13:17:19.456-06:002017-04-21T13:17:19.456-06:00Thanks Jeff. Excited for this shoe. I've bee...Thanks Jeff. Excited for this shoe. I've been in Challenger 3's and they work fine, but the speedgoat has always been a dream shoe for me, especially with the technical trail around here. Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13204236177360325975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-65874579315312319792017-04-21T13:14:17.919-06:002017-04-21T13:14:17.919-06:00Hey Gordon, I don't remember the arch in the S...Hey Gordon, I don't remember the arch in the SG 1 being notably pronounced, but that was 2 years ago and I gave up on it quite quickly (not to mention, I was preoccupied with the blisters on my toes and falling down). Definitely not pronounced though with the SG 2.<br /><br />As far as sizing, I have found Hoka shoe to fit generally in line with other brands, such that I am always a size 10, just a little extra room in the toe. I actually measure just between 9.5 and 10 and can occasionally go 9.5 depending on the brand/model, but given the choice, I always go 10. The only big curve ball from Hoka in regards to sizing, has been the Huaka, where I had both a 9 and a 9.5 and both were good depending on the terrain I was running.Jeff Vallierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106877622296558733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-32052802015532827382017-04-21T13:03:05.955-06:002017-04-21T13:03:05.955-06:00This is exciting. I just sent a pair of Speedgoat...This is exciting. I just sent a pair of Speedgoat 1 back to the store for the same issues you had, blistery toes and they were just unstable. The version 1 ran so narrow that i ordered up a half size, which led to too much room and bad fit. This seems like a great improvement. Couple of questions: the version 1 had a really pronounced arch support. Same in ver 2? and when you say true to size, I've always had to order .5 size up Hoka in all models. so by true to size does that mean true to Hoka sizing? Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13204236177360325975noreply@blogger.com