tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post1547393162473254696..comments2024-03-19T07:33:55.817-06:00Comments on Road Trail Run: First Review: Nike+SportWatch GPSSam Winebaumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-59619852323874357012011-07-28T07:38:14.125-06:002011-07-28T07:38:14.125-06:00So, It's been about 4 months since this articl...So, It's been about 4 months since this article has been written. I'm looking to buy my wife this watch and have some concerns if it's even worth it. Currently she's using the Ipod and Pill sensor and has had the same problems with losing data and uploads. Is this watch worth it to buy? Have they ironed out the bugs? We live in a rural area but not country. Its more like the burbs. I'm concerned about the watch not picking up her runs or keeping accurate data. Have you been using it since? Do you suggest another watch? <br />Thanks<br />Btkasper@gmail.comBrandonhttp://www.fishsticks.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-46746059161415333152011-04-25T08:26:52.483-06:002011-04-25T08:26:52.483-06:00@Arturo IF I understand you. The foot sensor is ...@Arturo IF I understand you. The foot sensor is additional to the GPS. If you are outside and not in an area where the signal could be blocked by tall buildings or very dense trees there is no need for the foot sensor. If the signal is blocked the sensor takes over if you have it on your shoe. If you are inside and on a treadmill you can use the sensor instead of the GPS.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-23193883697084508182011-04-25T05:23:20.079-06:002011-04-25T05:23:20.079-06:00Hi I have a question, if the clock is integrated g...Hi I have a question, if the clock is integrated gps serving Nike + shoe sensor? I do not understand that, other brands have the GPS built into the clock and need not take any additional sensorArturo Pardo Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14222086850508926128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-66237745814383693112011-04-22T15:14:55.616-06:002011-04-22T15:14:55.616-06:00Hi Sam, I hope It will be added on the next firmwa...Hi Sam, I hope It will be added on the next firmware update, I have a garmin 405 and It's the only thing that I miss while I'm running.<br /><br /> Thanks for the advice.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04164764924289667675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-88480704874520792752011-04-22T08:38:56.420-06:002011-04-22T08:38:56.420-06:00Jose Luis,
The lack of average pace is a huge prob...Jose Luis,<br />The lack of average pace is a huge problem. The Nike folks at the Boston Marathon expo told me "unofficially" that they are now testing average pace and that it should be live in July. They also told me they are working on smoothing the instantaneous pace on the watch when you run and that at least one adjustment has been made since the watch came out. One way to work around this problem is to set your auto laps to a short distance, say 500 meters. See my other post about the Boston Marathon. The watch was very accurate there.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-31560294306320259992011-04-22T08:35:28.695-06:002011-04-22T08:35:28.695-06:00Arturo,
Not sure on when Niketown in NY might have...Arturo,<br />Not sure on when Niketown in NY might have the watch. Right now nike.com is showing it as out of stockSam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-89048151912646741292011-04-22T04:07:18.442-06:002011-04-22T04:07:18.442-06:00Hello
I have a question: Niketown store in New Yo...Hello<br /><br />I have a question: Niketown store in New York and you can buy the GPS clock?<br /><br />Thanks<br />mi name is Arthur , come from Madrid (Spain) email : arturo.pardo@gmail.comArturo Pardo Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14222086850508926128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-84926457819391770422011-04-22T03:01:33.743-06:002011-04-22T03:01:33.743-06:00I really miss the average pace, it's a huge mi...I really miss the average pace, it's a huge mistake. Another thing that I don't like is the way to paint the pace on the chart, It's impossible to follow it, it should be SoftlyUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04164764924289667675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-61224672088556378532011-04-21T09:03:21.055-06:002011-04-21T09:03:21.055-06:00The USB would remain usable, its just the cover th...The USB would remain usable, its just the cover that has a retaining pin that could later be removed.<br /><br />I personally think there is little chance of it braking off and its scare mongering to mention such a thing!<br /><br />My watch has seen some serious use already, DIY, mechanics, running, sunbathing, saunas, steam rooms, swimming, heat cold rust dirt oil mud water, LOTS of water!zcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-55270292999934027752011-04-19T13:51:27.408-06:002011-04-19T13:51:27.408-06:00Erik,
Thanks for kind words. Trying to figure Spor...Erik,<br />Thanks for kind words. Trying to figure SportsWatch out. It did fantastically well at the Boston Marathon, me not so good but I had fun while I suffered and shuffled way way behind pace after the half see my other post on maybe why . NIke+SportsWatch had the course at 26.45 miles or 99.05% accurate and I am sure I did not run all the tangents. I also think it got less accurate in the last couple miles when buildings towered overhead. I heard "unofficially" from Nike folks at the pre race expo who should know that they are testing average pace for firmware release expected in July. They also told me the foot sensor picks up when GPS signal is completely lost not when it is weak. I asked what I should run Boston with GPS, GPS +sensor, or sensor alone and they told me GPS alone.. I could not get them to tell me what their GPS sampling rate scheme is.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-8390778663576553432011-04-19T13:33:17.599-06:002011-04-19T13:33:17.599-06:00Sam, great review and love your attention to detai...Sam, great review and love your attention to detail. These things matter. If you hear anything back from Nike re: firmware updates for average pace, I'd love to be notified.Erik Petersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09701719524295906807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-59975762009394749562011-04-12T16:59:30.951-06:002011-04-12T16:59:30.951-06:00Hi Sam,
Thanks for taking the time to read and c...Hi Sam, <br /><br />Thanks for taking the time to read and comment my Nike+ SportWatch GPS Post. <br /><br />I completely agree that the lack of average pace tracking and the inability of the watch to lap when in auto-lap mode is incredibly annoying. Lets just hope that Nike iron out the kinks and release some kind of firmware hey!<br /><br />My<a href="http://www.runtheline.com/1552/nike-sportswatch-gps-running-watch-review" rel="nofollow">Nike+ SportWatch GPS</a> Reviewross88guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17543005474420049730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-81585667280599540382011-04-11T06:07:48.148-06:002011-04-11T06:07:48.148-06:00Anonymous,
If the USB connector broke off it looks...Anonymous,<br />If the USB connector broke off it looks to me like the watch would be shot as there would be no way to update or charge. I think there is little or no of the connector breaking off when the watch is on your wrist. It is when you are putting it on and in charging and storing. It does snap into the clasp but not particularly securely. I have had it snap out when putting the watch on. As far as firmware update for average pace, manual laps, etc... I don't know for sure but it would seem that updating should be possible. I will be asking NIke. As far as the GPS accuracy time will tell. I am still testing.. I can't say for sure that the foot sensor backs up the GPS. Some runs very good, others it seems to lose track all of a sudden, likely due to losing some satellite fixes. I can see the error on the Nike Maps site when I upload. Of course my Garmin does some of the same at times going suddenly off.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-54857482452801638402011-04-10T19:12:38.366-06:002011-04-10T19:12:38.366-06:00If the USB somehow breaks off or becomes ruined, i...If the USB somehow breaks off or becomes ruined, is the watch unusable?<br /><br />Also, is it likely Nike will update the average pace feature and manual lap during auto lap feature via a firmware update? Is that even possible? Or would they have to implement these features in an entirely new model? I am not familiar with Nike's technology. I am also the owner of a 205 and am very interested in the Sportswatch but wish I could have some more reassurance on its GPS accuracy (without having to use the foot sensor), and have the two features missing added to the watchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-36040788737698409312011-04-09T08:49:03.235-06:002011-04-09T08:49:03.235-06:00I found that connection was not great with the cab...I found that connection was not great with the cable and even direct connect I had to jiggle the connection to make good contact. Might be combination of what looks like a thin USB connector on watch and my older Mac's contacts being worn. Others are having connect problems particularly on Mac. See this nike forum thread http://forums.nike.com/thread.jspa?threadID=35423&start=225&tstart=0Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-55799453427611475052011-04-09T03:40:39.370-06:002011-04-09T03:40:39.370-06:00Hey :)
I downloaded the nike+ connect but when i ...Hey :) <br />I downloaded the nike+ connect but when i put my watch into the computer it only start to charge and it will not connect to the nike + connect... very confusing! please help me!? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-49742667175030820652011-04-07T10:40:33.723-06:002011-04-07T10:40:33.723-06:00Thanks Paleo for the data on weight and size. I s...Thanks Paleo for the data on weight and size. I saw those inaccuracy posts too. I did see quite a difference on my first run 7.53 miles for Nike+ vs. 7.59 miles for my older Garmin 205. I did not use the foot sensor on the first run. My second tests on a straight road with the foot sensor on had the Garmin and Nike matching distance. No GPS is going to be totally accurate. This said if they can smooth the weak GPS signal with a calibrated foot sensor they might be able to get closer to true distance than GPS alone. Still don't understand how the foot sensor can be calibrated without comparing its distance result to a measured course.<br />I think we are going to find that this watch is very versatile, at least for running. I do find it strange that it can't display average pace for the run or for a lap in progress.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-89759062083184845742011-04-07T10:23:01.179-06:002011-04-07T10:23:01.179-06:00Official Nike+ techspec: "Dimensions 37mm wid...Official Nike+ techspec: "Dimensions 37mm wide x 256mm high x 16mm thick. Weight 66 grams. Battery life up to 8 hours of run time with GPS and sensor turned on. Water resistant to 5 ATM."<br /><br />So I guess you could swim with it, but it wouldn't count your distance/laps like Finis Swimsense or Swimovate Pool-Mate do.<br /><br />Some early users have mentioned GPS inaccuracy issues. The quick start (with footpod) feature and the new maps seem pretty sweet though.Jukka Kukkonenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07890980295620562884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-25874349630068322252011-04-07T07:02:46.505-06:002011-04-07T07:02:46.505-06:00Wired claims the watch is 16mm thick. I have not y...Wired claims the watch is 16mm thick. I have not yet found an official weight. I do remember reading somewhere that while the watch is water resistant it may not be swimmable. Not positive on that. I am not seeing MPH format. I would imagine this might be an easy software update. I have updated the post based on new information. The "Beta" maps is outstanding and gets rid of the cartoonish views of data of the original Nike+ site.Sam Winebaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969086391170473784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10529476.post-50096854196035748622011-04-06T23:49:49.800-06:002011-04-06T23:49:49.800-06:00The UI with big fonts seems like a winner! Compare...The UI with big fonts seems like a winner! Compared to my Garmin FR110, which is about 13 mm thick and weighs 52 g, Nike+ seems a little bulkier and heavier? Maybe the battery life is longer than the 8h with 110 then? Like you said it doesn't have an average pace yet, but does it have MPH-format for bike, like Garmin does? <br /><br />Now that Lance seems to be coming back to triathlon life, I'm looking forward to a Nike+ Ironman GPS watch with full swim, bike and run features. <br /><br />BTW, Garmin will show a new model at London Marathon expo next week - no info yet on that one.<br /><br />Good luck for Boston.Jukka Kukkonenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07890980295620562884noreply@blogger.com