Tuesday, January 30, 2018

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 Review: GO! Let it Ride!

Article by Peter Stuart, Dave Ames, Derek Li, and Sam Winebaum

The fine folks at Skechers Perfomance have updated their entire line with a new, very light and lively FlightGEN midsole foam, dialed in their GOknit uppers and put all of their shoes on a diet!
How does the GOrun Ride 7 run and how does it compare to other new Skechers and the competition? Read on for the details.

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7
We tested in the Ride 7 in all kinds of outdoor and indoor conditions in Singapore, California, Utah, and New Hampshire. Reviewer bios are at the end of the review.
Introduction
The GOrun Ride 7 is the "new" plush daily trainer in the 2018 Skechers lineup. See our 2018 Skechers preview here. It’s got more underfoot than the previous GOun Ride 6 as well as the new GoRun 6. It features a GOknit upper, M-Strike technology and Skechers new Flight Gen™foam.

Those who ran the GOrun Ride 6 should realize that the GOrun Ride 7 is on a new platform  with more cushion, 2mm more in the forefoot and 4mm more in the heel and which is now is also 6mm drop shoe vs. 4mm previously.

While the Ride 6 was really very similar to the Run 5, the Ride 7 now fills a gap in the Skechers line between the Razor and  Run and the GOrun Ultra Road, becoming the  previously "missing" well cushioned daily trainer. At $95 it is an outstanding value for a state of the art run shoe,

Stats
Weight US M9 Sample:  9.24 oz /262 g with sock liner
                                        8.61 oz /244 g without sock liner as it can also be run on the finished bed
Stack Height: 18mm forefoot/24mm heel, 6mm offset
$95 Available now.

First Impressions and Fit
Peter: I took these out of the box and ran 19 miles in them. The fit is perfect at true to size, The cushioning, while a bit soft, was perfect and I felt relatively unscathed for running that distance in a brand new shoe. There’s a nice mix of softness and bounce to these and they do well at an easy clip while also holding their own when you speed up.

Dave: First of all this is a major overhaul from the Ride 6.  As a former Skechers Performance Run Sales Rep, the Ride 6 just looked cheap.  In fact, while the shoe ran well, I rarely took it out of my sales bag in a product line meeting because it couldn’t match up with the rest of the 2017 line.  Fast forward to 2018 and damn….Skechers has done an outstanding job.  I’m loving the new two toned knit upper, a major update from the Ride 6.  Step in feel is spot on, but it does run a hair small with the sockliner in (more to come on that in the “Ride” section) - - so I’d possibly suggest going a half size up if you like a bit more wiggle room.  I personally like a snug fit, so my size 9 was perfect.  The FlightGen feeling underfoot is simply outstanding.
Sam:  I was sent a half size up from my true to size. Fit with the supplied sock liner in was a touch large, but not by much. Without sock liner in they were to large. If you plan to run without the sock liner on the finished bed or substitute a thin flat sock liner, and that is for sure my preference here, go true to size. Any initial snugness in the front knit will stretch.

Derek: I have previously run the Ride 3, which I found to bottom out a little too much, and the Ride 5, which had a very dead-feeling ride for me. v7 seems to have gotten it right. Step in feel is very comfortable, and the overall volume was spot on without having to fiddle much with the lace tension. Skechers has always run true to size for me, and it’s no different here.

Upper
Peter: The upper is a pretty simple two toned knit upper with a couple of overlays. There’s a single sewn on overlay that runs across the midfoot and up to  the eyelets helping to secure the foot and give the lacing system some structure.  The knit is breathable and holds the foot perfectly well. It took me a minute to get the heel locked down, but once I did I haven’t had to adjust anything at all. The tongue is lightly padded and sewn into the upper near the laces on the sides so there’s no slippage but this is not a bootie type construction. There’s a pull tab on the back of the shoe which makes it a bit easier to pull them on. There’s a removable sockliner as well--more on that later.
Dave:  Great upper with the breathable two toned knit.  A lot different from the uppers you are seeing from other run companies in 2018.  It’s soft, yet firm in terms of holding and molding the foot, which for me is really important in a shoe.  The lacing via the “throat” of the shoe is spot on and laces up just as well as the New Balance 890v6 for 2018 (the 2 shoes that lace the best for me so far in 2018) - - There is no need for the last eyelet.  It’s a simple shoe.  Slide your foot in, lace it up and go crank some miles!
Sam: A very fine upper that is fuss free and fits well and securely with no pressure points, decent toe box room free of any overlays or stiffening except for just a touch of stiffening in the toe bumper area. I appreciate the full heel counter and decently firm achilles and ankle collar padding.

Derek: The knitted mesh upper is very comfortable, though slightly on the warm side for the warm and humid conditions I run in (~85+F / 80% humidity). Somewhat similar in density to the ASICS Dynaflyte. It feels soft and luxurious but not too stretchy and offers sufficient lock-down with very minimal lacing tension needed. I still prefer the knitted upper of last year’s Razor, simply because it breathed better, but I can see this upper working very well in cooler conditions.

Midsole

Peter: The big story with 2018 Skechers' is the Flight Gen™ midsole foam. I don’t know exactly what it is but it’s lighter than their previous foam and it is remarkably springy. It really is light and responsive--everyone seems to say that about their shoes, but in this case it’s really true!

Dave:  Last year, Skechers went with 5Gen as the key midsole technology.  It was pretty solid stuff and produced some really enjoyable runs.  Well, now in 2018, I’ll lay it out here right now, FlightGen is the best midsole of any run company going right now and the best I’ve felt under my foot in a very long time.  This is exactly how I like my shoes - - Alive!!  It’s soft, but not Hoka soft.  The FlightGen, mixed with Skechers awesome M Strike (Midfoot Strike) technology keeps stride after stride, ever so smooth.  Worried about form?  The Ride 7 teaches you to find that sweet spot.  Get lazy at the end of a race or a long run and the Ride 7 reminds you to check your gait.  A powerful midsole when you want it to be, yet it can dial back and let you cruise some easy recovery miles as well.

Sam: FightGen is fine stuff! While the Ride 7 gains weigh, an ounce over the Ride 6, it is a far more cushioned and substantial shoe with 2mm more foam in the forefoot and 4 mm more in the heel. All the other 2018 Skechers lose weight and in some cases lots of weight at the same stack heights as 2017 models. So FlightGen is light. The feel is soft and I would agree with Peter more springy than bouncy. Despite the light weight it feels dense and substantial while also being soft and lively.
The foot is well stabilized by some midsole sidewalls at the rear.
The supplied thick soft sock liner added into the midsole mix rendered the feel lethargic and difficult to transition from the heel, a very soft slow to react feel especially at slow paces. Taking the sock liner out and running on the finished lined footbed gave the Ride a whole new personality, lively springy and fast in a fluid softer way almost like a wave moving forward. I suspect as a heel striker that I was sinking and lingering behind the mild further forward M-Strike bump and sock liner sidewalls at slower paces with the sock liner in. When combined with the relatively thin outsole coverage I was not getting much pop forward.  I was very surprised at the difference in feel and performance. So when you want your "ride" soft and super mellow leave the sock liner in.  When you want a livelier faster ride take it out keeping in mind that each scenario may affect fit. I have almost never felt such a difference in performance feel from a change in sock liner.

Derek: I think they hit the sweet spot for a premium daily trainer in terms of midsole feel here. It is soft but not overly mushy, especially in the forefoot, where you want to retain a little responsiveness for that gear shift. The heel is remarkably soft, almost reminding me of a Vaporfly. Overall the feel is more bouncy than squishy. Reminds me of a Salming Enroute, but with less ground feel.


Outsole
Peter: The outsole is a combination of exposed Flight Gen™ and strategically placed rubber to provide traction and durability. I haven’t had any issues with the shoes feeling slippery on wet surfaces. Wear seems to be normal.

Dave:  It’s not that the Ride 6 was a bad shoe, but it suffered from some durability issues.  The exposed outsole really took a beating after some miles and the sensor pods always wore down, causing runners to think the shoe was dead, earlier than it really was (it hurt sales and would consistently hear this at expos) - - The Ride 7, beefed up the durability for sure with the Rubber Traction plate.  It allows an uber smooth transition and gripped well on wet surfaces.  This shoe just gained about 150 more miles than the Ride 6, via the combo of FlightGen and the updated outsole.  And for the price?  Come on….this is a steal!

Sam: Skechers calls this outsole a parametric web and it is also used in different patterns on the Run 6, Razor 2, and GOmeb Speed but not the Forza which gets a full coverage bar shaped and more substantial coverage outsole  While I like the forefoot rubber thickness and coverage, I feel the heel area could use a more continuous fuller coverage as in the new Forza 3 (see initial review here). At slower paces a steadier more substantial heel platform would give the shoe some pop and enhance transitions.

Derek: I prefer this outsole pattern to that used in the GoRun and Razor. It just seems to grip the ground better. No issues for me on wet surfaces so far. I’ve had limited mileage on the shoe, but I’m seeing very little wear on the outsole so far.

Ride
Peter: There are two shoes hidden in in the Ride 7. If you run in them as they come they are a very soft, forgiving (dare I say maximal feeling) ride. They have more road feel and responsiveness than most shoes with this much cushion, but they are definitely a soft shoe. They are terrific feeling for long steady runs and recovery runs. They get up to speed nicely too. Nothing wrong with the ride at all.

There’s another gear in these puppies though--when you take out the sockliner you get a snappier, faster, less cushioned shoe. In this sockliner-less version the Ride becomes a great tempo or race shoe. It’s still springy, but becomes a bit more efficient and certainly feels faster.

Dave:  Peter is absolutely right.  There are two stories with this shoe.  I personally like the feeling of having the sockliner in at all times, but I did try it without and the shoe was great for a Fartlek without the liner.  I ran a progression yesterday (1/27) with the liner in and had a great 3 mile fast finish.  The shoe was outstanding with a little more underneath as well.  Long story short.   Each runner is different, but do not hesitate to try it either way.  So what do you get from the Ride 7?  A powerful, vibrant, snappy shoe perfect for runs of any kind.  I can see this as a really nice marathon race shoe for me.

Sam: I agree with Peter and Dave on the differences in rides with and without the sock liner.  I did not have a single good run with the sock liner in. I struggled with the softness and lack of response off the heel, especially at slower paces. With no sock liner, or in my case a very thin race shoe liner due to the half size up of my sample, the Ride was fantastic with a fluid, well cushioned softer yet fast and springy ride. As evidenced in other RTR reviews I suspect that Peter and Dave's more towards the mid foot landings,they are 3 hour marathoners and these days I am closer to four hours, 1:35 half, have them off the heel faster than me.

Derek: I too prefer having the sockliner in, mainly because the shoe volume gets a bit too much without one for me. I did find that my feet felt very warm after the first 20 minutes in the stock sockliner (which is fairly thick EVA). I swapped it out for a thinner perforated one from an old shoe and all the heat issues went away. I didn’t notice any significant change in the ride of the shoe either, going to a thinner sockliner. So far the ride has been very smooth for me, and it works well over a variety of paces from slow jogs in the 8:30/mile range, up to hard strides at <5:30/mile pace. I haven’t done any long runs in it yet, but I see this being my long run shoe of choice, moving forward.

Conclusions and Recommendations

Peter: The Ride 7 is what I always hoped the Hoka Clifton would be. It’s light (enough), super cushioned for long days and recovery days, but still has some significant snap to it when you want to go fast. The upper and fit are flawless and the shoe disappears on your feet when you run in it. There’s the added bonus of a faster, less cushioned feeling shoe hidden in there when you remove the sockliner making it a really versatile running shoe.

At $95, it’s also incredibly affordable. I’d highly recommend getting a pair of these. I think this may be the shoe that brings the masses to Skechers Performance. There’s nothing niche about the Ride 7--it’s a solid, cushioned daily trainer that is a blast to run in. I just ran another 20 in them today. This is a GREAT shoe. I would race a marathon in it without a second thought--I’d also do recovery runs in it. It feels amazing, it disappears on the feet and it is just FUN to run in. I’d say the best of 2018 so far (and better than most of 2017 too). And remember that taking the insole out makes it a snappier and faster feeling shoe without giving up much cushion. Did I mention it really propels your foot through the gait cycle? Wow!
Dave:  An outstanding shoe and one of the best, if not the best I’ve put on my foot in 2018!  I would recommend this shoe for road work including tempos, Fartlek, Progressions, but where it becomes different than most in this lightweight category is it can be used to recovery days and long easy runs as well. It’s kinda your one stop shop.  It’s a shoe you need to buy 3 pairs of at the $95 price point and just keep around.  Your foot remembers what a good shoe is and the Ride 7 certainly is that.

Sam: The Ride is a versatile, well cushioned trainer at a great price. Taking out the sock liner takes the weight way down to 8.6 oz and livens things up considerably for me making it not only a daily trainer but a fine race and fast runs option for those who want some cush and bounce with speed. If you think you may go without the sock liner even occasionally, I recommend staying true to size.

The only things I wish for to improve the Ride 7 would be a standard lower profile thinner sock liner or even no sock liner, or maybe a touch firmer midsole and/or more and thicker heel and forefoot rubber coverage to add pop and transition at the heel and a touch more stability at the forefoot.  Wait isn't much of my wish list in the Skechers Forza 3, the similar weight light stability trainer (initial review here)? Yes it is, but I wish while the Ride be a bit firmer that the Forza be a touch softer. The perfect shoe for me is always over the horizon!

Derek: For people who like the Vaporfly but want a trainer equivalent, this may just be it. Very soft and smooth with a solid directed bouncy feel. The soft heel may feel unstable for heel strikers, but as long as you don’t land very far back on the shoe, it actually feels pretty stable. The platform is not particularly narrow and should work well for a variety of running styles, as long as you are not a severe over-pronator. I just wish they had used the same upper from the Forza for this shoe, or at least something a bit more breathable.

Scores
Dave: 10/10 
Outstanding job by my friend Kurt Stockbridge and his team over at Skechers Performance. Anyone still think Skechers Performance is a joke?
Peter 10/10
I haven’t ever given a 10 before. This is a fantastic, fantastic, fantastic shoe.
Sam: 9.7/10
I almost gave up on the Ride due to the softness and lethargic ride at slower paces with the stock sock liner. Taking it out made the shoe fantastic, and a mere sockliner has never so radically changed my opinion of a shoe.  It is one of the liveliest and most comfortable shoes so far this year. I only wish there were a slightly happier medium here between a touch firmer midsole, a lower profile sock liner, and/or more and firmer outsole rubber.
Derek 9.5/10
Almost a home run for me. The upper is a little warm for me, and I would prefer a thinner knit, but this should only affect a small cohort of runners who run in equatorial conditions like me.


Comparisons
Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 vs. Forza 3 (initial RTR review)
Sam: The Forza has a full coverage outsole and is firmer, more stable and stiffer. It's upper is slightly more supportive yet it weighs about the same as the Ride as it has a slightly lower overall stack height.  If you need a bit of pronation support or prefer a firmer ride go with the Forza. I found the Forza ran smoother and easier for me at slower paces and the Ride without the sock liner faster and easier at pace. The Forza is somewhat more supportive underfoot and likely more durable over time, while the Ride 7 is more fun to run fast and softer cushioned.
Watch our YouTube Comparison of the Ride 7 to Forza 3 

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 vs. Hoka Clifton 4 (RTR review)
Dave:  Do you want marshmallows or liveliness?  It’s the Ride 7 all day for me.  There’s just so much more going on in the Ride 7, compared to the Clifton.  I still wouldn’t classify the Ride 7 as maximal by any means, but there sure is a good amount of cush, done the right way!  Soft, yet alive!

Peter: No comparison The Clifton 4 was somehow both mushy and stiff at the same time. Bummer for me to run in. Ride 7 is alive with the sound of music!

Sam: With an awkward upper, improved but still overly soft heel, and dated and less lively underfoot feel in a now heavier shoe the Clifton just doesn't compare to the Ride 7

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 vs. Hoka Napali (RTR review soon)
Dave:  I just was shipped the Napali (review soon!), essentially a Clifton 3 with a new lighter upper taking the weight down to the Ride's without the sockliner a week ago and I really really like it.  It’s the first Hoka I’ve ever liked, literally….ever!  This is a tough call because they honestly both ride so well.  The Ride 7 however is just first of all aesthetically, a better looking shoe.  The uppers on the Napali are cheap looking I think somewhat outdated when everyone else is coming with their A game in the run biz with uppers, and especially so Skechers. I personally think if you had to compare a Ride 7 to a Hoka, the Napali is the best bet.  The win goes to the Ride 7 here, because I just get much more use out of it.  I would never tempo in a Hoka.

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 vs. Nike Zoom Fly (RTR review)
Dave:  I noticed a good amount of resemblance between these 2 shoes in testing.  They both scream fast, but do it in a way that is telling you it’s going to make you more efficient as well.  Both shoes help you find the sweet spot, however at higher speeds I always found the Zoom Fly to get a bit sloppy.  I feel much more at home with the M Strike in Skechers (could be the many years of training in SP) - - The W goes to Ride 7.  Not to mention $55 bucks cheaper!!

Peter: I got a lot of forefoot fatigue in the Zoom Fly and absolutely none in the Ride 7. A much more forgiving ride for the Skechers while still being fast enough when I push the pace.

Sam: More versatile, a better value, and easier on the legs the nod clearly goes to the Ride 7 for me.

Derek: The Zoom Fly is less versatile, but transitions faster at uptempo paces. I don’t experience forefoot fatigue in the Fly, but do note that the Fly must be run a certain way for the transition to be smooth; once you leave that sweet spot, things get jarring pretty quickly. The Ride 7, on the other hand, is much more forgiving and accommodating towards different landing patterns, while still providing a soft and smooth transition. At $95, the Ride 7 is really tough to beat!

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 vs. Salomon Sonic RA (RTR review)
Sam: The lighter 8.6 oz Sonic RA doesn't quite have the silky smooth upper of the Ride 7 but its firm vibration free and stable ride is more my cup of tea. With considerably more durable rubber and a more traditional responsive performance oriented ride the Sonic leans more towards speed and can also handle slower paces without the sinking feeling of the Ride 7. The Ride 7 may a touch more versatile as a daily trainer for short and long runs due to its comfort but overall I give a slight nod to the Salomon.

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 vs. UA HOVR Sonic (RTR review)
Sam: While the Ride 7 upper is sensational the HOVR's is better yet for me combining a denser non stretch saddle with a slightly stretchier toe. The rides get to the same place, a springy rebound and decent response but in different ways with the HOVR having a soft central core surrounded by firmer EVA carrier and the Ride having a single density foam. The HOVR is a touch more stable and directed but also a touch less lively. It's a toss up with the Ride slightly more fun to run and the HOVR more versatile but maybe a bit less lively.

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 vs. Skechers Performance GOrun 6 (RTR review)
Dave:  This is the hot topic right now.  Which way do you go?  Last year, the Run 5, trumped the Ride 6.  It was just made better with a better upper and a sleeker design.  Unfortunately, I have never liked a Run because they have always been way too soft or far too minimal.  In 2018, the roles are reversed yet again.  The Run 6 is a causal shoe for me.  I didn’t make it a mile in testing without turning around and switching shoes.  The sock like upper on the Run 6 is just not made to run in.  At least with my foot.  It’s sloppy.  The Run 6 is also far too soft and bangs the hell out of my knees.  If you were a Run 5 fan, go for the Ride 7.  You’ll have a far better experience.

Peter: I really liked the Run 5. I wouldn’t go as far as dave here to call the Run 6 a casual shoe, but it does lose some of the snap of the 5. The upper works well for me and I like the Run 6, but I LOVE the Ride 7.

Sam: Agree with Dave about the more "casual" upper of the Run 6 and its hold. This said the midsole is the same firmness in the Run 6 as the Ride 7, in a lower profile at a very light 6.7 oz shoe with the Run making it a livelier, firmer, faster, and more responsive shoe for me, with a somewhat challenging upper, the Ride 7 remains considerably more versatile and a better overall choice.

Derek: while the Run 5 was a very soft and bouncy shoe, almost bottoming out at fast paces for me, the Run 6 seems to have reverted to a firmer, faster ride, bearing closer resemblance to the Run 4 than 5. With that in mind, I think the Run 6 is more of an uptempo type of shoe, sitting somewhere between the Razor and the Ride. I actually had fun with the Run 6; surprisingly decent lock-down despite the very unstructured upper. It definitely worked better for me than say the Reebok Floatride Run. I think from a daily trainer perspective, it boils down to what kind of ride you like. If soft maximalist is your preference, then go with the Ride 7; if you like a more stable, grounded feel, then go with the Run 6.

Skechers Performance  GOrun Ride 7 vs. New Balance 890v6 (RTR review)
Dave:  FlightGen vs. Fresh Foam.  Not even close.  Ride 7 for the win.  I do really enjoy the 890v6 though and think many will love the 890 when it comes back out.  But for overall ride, Ride 7 wins out.  They both lace up, beautifully though!!
Sam: The 890v6 upper is superior if the task is fast running as it is supremely comfortable yet secure for a performance trainer. Underfoot the Ride is less stable than the near stability shoe 890 for sure with Ride softer in its cushion and more mellow in its lively transitions. Nod to the Ride for its underfoot less directed comfort and versatility.

Skechers Performance  GOrun Ride 7 vs. Nike Zoom Vaporfly 4%(RTR review)
Peter: I’m gonna catch a lot of grief for this, but there’s a similarity here. Both of these shoes really jump off the ground. The Vaporfly is firmer, but as I’m more likely going to try to go sub 3, not sub 2, I may actually prefer the Skechers. Yup, I said it, let the hate mail ensue. Oh, also you can buy 2.5 pairs of Ride 7’s. for the price of one Vaporfly 4%. Okay, I just ran them side by side and...the VaporFly is still a firmer, poppier race shoe. I’d race the VaporFly if I wanted to go fast, but there are some similarities in the ride. Ride 7 is softer for sure.

Sam: While there are some similarities in the softness and the even slightly in the Ride of the forefoot feel of falling forward and then bouncing up and away, the VaporFly goes about speed and comfort in a much more controlled and decisive way. Of course its high cost is a factor, and the Ride is more versatile day in day out, but for pure racing speed, comfort, and results I will stick to the VF for my racing over the Ride.

Derek: As I mentioned above, the heels feel very similar to me, and the Ride could well be the low-cost trainer version of your favorite racer without burning a hole in your wallet. I can already see this shoe being a big competitor to Nike’s new Epic React.

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 vs. Nike Pegasus 34 (RTR review)
Peter: Similar category, the Go Run is a much more enjoyable shoe for me.

Sam: Totally agree with Peter here that Ride is more enjoyable . The Pegasus is lumpy feeling and has a thunk to its response. It's heavier too. Now when the expected Zoom X version, same foam as in the VaporFly, comes this year I expect the tables will be turned.

Skechers Performance GOrun Ride 7 vs. Nike Vomero 12 (RTR review)
Peter: I haven’t run the Vomero 13, but the Ride 7 does what I wished the Vomero would--give me a great ride on easy days, but snap up when I step on the gas.

Sam: Both are very well and relatively softly cushioned. The Vomero 12 is steadier and more responsive in its heel cushion but has a long stiff flex that I have a hard time getting past as the pace picks up.  It is considerably heavier. The Ride flips the tables with not quite the steady responsive heel especially run slower of the Vomero but a more fluid and lively forefoot.

Reviewer Bios
Peter Stuart is a late 40's avid LA based runner with recent sub 3 hour marathons and sub 1:25 halves.
Sam Winebaum is the Editor and Founder of RoadTrailRun. He has been running and shoe geeking for 45 years. As he turned 60 in 2017 he was thrilled to clock a 1:35.24 half.
Dave Ames is the Founder and Head Coach of Ame For It Run Coaching, a nationwide run coaching business, training athletes of all ability levels from 5K to Marathon.
Derek Li is a family physician who lives in Singapore. He has been running marathons for the past four years with a 2017 marathon PR of 2:41 and a 2018 1:17 half marathon PR. Derek is focusing on  a bid to run all the World Marathon Majors. In his free time, he likes to review running shoes and related products at his blog Running Commentary.

Photo Credits: Peter Stuart and Dave Ames
The Ride was provided at no cost. The opinions herein are entirely the authors'.

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20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Love the review and you all make me want these kicks! Can a high volume/wide foot pull these off?

Daniel said...

Hi, nice detailed review! How does the fit of the Ride 7 compare to the GOrun 5 for people with narrow feet? Fitwise the GOrun 5 is the only Skechers Shoe i have experience with. While i found the GOrun5 basically very true to size (in my case US 9), i would have prefered them a half size smaller. They were a tiny bit long and had a little too much wiggle room in the forefoot for my taste, which was okay for easy runs, but kind of annoying for faster paced running. Long story short: the GOrun 5 wasn´t really a snug fitting shoe for me (even with the sockliner). Does it make sense to go down a half size in the Ride 7, especially if i intend to use them without the sockliner ? Just for reference: the fit of shoes like the Adidas Adios or NB 1400 are just perfect for my feet (although i go half size up in them as they seem to run a bit short). Thanks for any feedback!

sam winebaum said...

Hi Anonymous,
Depending on how wide I think yes with sock liner out.
Sam, Editor

Eric said...

Great reviews. I just ran the first 4 miles in these and liked them a lot. A super upper, maybe the best. A little lacking in bounce but moves fast through my ground contact. What a bargain and definitely a step up from the more expensive Clifton 4s which I still quite like.

Derek Li said...

I would go true to size for this shoe. The presence or absence of the sockliner just affects the volume and vertical space of the shoe, and does not affect the length. I go true to size for the Adios for reference. Also, compared to the Run 5, I think the Ride 7 has a more snug feel. Hope this helps.

Kip Count said...

Anonymous,

I sometimes need a 2E Wide in some shoes, depending on the cut. I can wear the Gorun Ride 7 with or without the sock liner in. Without the sock liner the volume is dreamy, and not at all loose or sloppy feeling. With the sock liner in, it's firm, snug fit. I could easily run this way just by adjusting the lacing to compensate, but I prefer the snappier ride with sock liner out anyway.

A good compromise is throwing in a thinner insole from a different shoe. I sometimes use a Zante sock liner in other shoes because it's basic, relatively thin, but is well made an durable. A lesson I've learned recently is, keep ALL your old sock liners, even if you are getting rid of shoes. Having an assortment of sock liners can help customize any shoe you get in the future to be more to your personal taste.

I almost cancelled my order because after ordering I just assumed it wouldn't fit my wide foot. I was 100% wrong to assume that. It's the best fitting shoe I've bought/tried since I started running last summer, and I've tried quite a few from Brooks, Nike, 361, New Balance (still love my Zante!), adidas, Asics, Saucony, etc, etc.

Anonymous said...

What about comparison to the Reebok Floatride you tested? Thanks, JT

sam winebaum said...

Hi anonymous,
That’s a good idea to compare to the float ride. I have some ideas but I want to run it again. Sam, editor
Thanks for reading Road trail run!

Joel said...

How does this shoe compare to the Salomon SLAB Sonic 2

sam winebaum said...

Hi Joel,
The S/Lab Sonic 2 has a softer mesh upper and is actually broader and roomier in the toe box and overall almost to roomy around ankle collar . It is firmer and more responsive for sure. Leans towards racer but can be a very fine fast days trainer. Tons of durable rubber and a way steeper price at $180. Ride is softer and bouncier and leans towards trainer. The Razor is a closer compare to Ride. Sonic 3 review here: http://www.roadtrailrun.com/2017/02/review-salomon-s-lab-sonic-2-highly.html?m=1
Sam, Editor

Joel said...

Thanks for the great review and quick follow up. My twin runs in the Sonic 2 and swears by them but for 90 bukcs... Just ordered the Ride 7.

Joel said...

Just received these today and took them out for an easy four miles. Midsole is awesome but one thing different for me is that my big toe presses against the top of the upper. There isn't a lot of vertical height in the toe box. Sort of like the first Hoka Speed Instinct. I have a feeling that will improve as I break these in. Otherwise it's a nearly flawless shoe.

sam winebaum said...

Hi Joel,
Thanks for your update. I generally find that toe heights on many shoes is low at first try on and run. As the sockliner packs in a bit and they stretch more toe room emerges, especially in knit type shoes. This said Ride is fairly pointed upfront and low.
Sam, Editor

Samuel said...

Hi, does the removal of the stock insole remove some of the support the shoe provides?

sam winebaum said...

Not to much from the insole but as roomier overall yes less support. Sam, Editor

Anonymous said...

How does it compare with the Brooks levitate and Saucony triumph iso 4 for cushioning,comfort and responsiveness/speed. Thanks

sam winebaum said...

Hi Anonymous,
Overall Ride 7 is a very different...ride from the Levitate and Triumph and a far lighter shoe than either of those. Both Levitate and Triumph are more supportive overall top to bottom and should last longer in terms of durability. Heavier runners and those in need of some underfoot support may be better served by Levitate and Triumph. The ride of the Ride is springy while the Levitate is more piston like in its cushion. The Triumph 4 has a denser midsole more cushioned yet also somewhat firmer as well. The Ride 7 is for sure more fun and faster shoe with still plenty of cushion han the others with Levitate in 2nd place in that department. Comes down to preferences and needs for you. You can see reviews of the Levitate and Triumph as well as many others at the link below.
Sam, Editor
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Gary said...

Sam,

I wear Altra Duo size 11, Altra Esclante size 11.5.
Which of the Skechers shoes would lit my wide forefoot best.
The GoRun7, Fornza 3 or the GR3? Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Hi,
How would you say these compare to the Ultra Road 2 from Skechers?. I am currently undecided between getting another pair of those or giving the Ride 7 a shot as an easy day shoe.
Thanks in advance!
Keep up the great work!

sam winebaum said...

Hi Anonymous,
Thanks for reading and asking. Great question. The Ultra Road is more cushioned more stable and stiffer with a forward flex while Ride 7 has a longer flex. Both would be great choices as an easy day shoe but I personally would lean towards the Ultra Road for easy and long runs.
Sam, Editor